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Beiruty wrote:

pbwalker wrote:Not sure if this has been posted already, but I love how the media is using a picture from 5 years ago to paint the kid as this sweet, innocent angel. I'm not saying we've never posed for stupid pictures in the past, or that it makes it ok to be shot, but the media is really doing a bang up job on this.

**Attaching photo instead of linking it directly. The kid is flipping the bird, so be warned**

The one in the picture on the right is not the same dead Trayvon Martin.

jmra wrote:

Beiruty wrote:

pbwalker wrote:Not sure if this has been posted already, but I love how the media is using a picture from 5 years ago to paint the kid as this sweet, innocent angel. I'm not saying we've never posed for stupid pictures in the past, or that it makes it ok to be shot, but the media is really doing a bang up job on this.

**Attaching photo instead of linking it directly. The kid is flipping the bird, so be warned**

The one in the picture on the right is not the same dead Trayvon Martin.

This is Trayvon Martin. Looks like it could be the same guy to me. Not enough detail in the smaller pic to be certain.

philip964 wrote:New Black Panther Party, the group who has called for the Houston protest on Monday to support justice for Trayvon by turning your lights on and by wearing a hoodie, has also put a $10,000 bounty on the head of Zimmerman.

http://blog.chron.com/newswatch/2012/03 ... er-bounty/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So how is the New Black Panther Party different from the old one?

philip964 wrote:

jmra wrote:

Beiruty wrote:

pbwalker wrote:Not sure if this has been posted already, but I love how the media is using a picture from 5 years ago to paint the kid as this sweet, innocent angel. I'm not saying we've never posed for stupid pictures in the past, or that it makes it ok to be shot, but the media is really doing a bang up job on this.

**Attaching photo instead of linking it directly. The kid is flipping the bird, so be warned**

The one in the picture on the right is not the same dead Trayvon Martin.

This is Trayvon Martin. Looks like it could be the same guy to me. Not enough detail in the smaller pic to be certain.

This photo looks 'shopped.

(My opinion just from looking at it at normal resolution and I am not an expert)

Lambda Force wrote:I keep hoping something good will come out of this tragedy. For example, if a dozen of the new black panthers get shot dead while attempting their premeditated aggravated kidnapping, for a brief shining moment, the world would be a better place.

A-R wrote:

philip964 wrote:New Black Panther Party, the group who has called for the Houston protest on Monday to support justice for Trayvon by turning your lights on and by wearing a hoodie, has also put a $10,000 bounty on the head of Zimmerman.

http://blog.chron.com/newswatch/2012/03 ... er-bounty/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So how is the New Black Panther Party different from the old one?

For that matter, how is it different from a lynch mob?

jmra wrote:

pbwalker wrote:Not sure if this has been posted already, but I love how the media is using a picture from 5 years ago to paint the kid as this sweet, innocent angel. I'm not saying we've never posed for stupid pictures in the past, or that it makes it ok to be shot, but the media is really doing a bang up job on this.

**Attaching photo instead of linking it directly. The kid is flipping the bird, so be warned**

Yep! Looks like a thug to me! Shirtless, double bird flipping, pants sagging thug! Has nothing to do with skin color - everything to do with poor parenting and a general disrespect for others.

So much for the whole size debate. 6'2" 170 lb 10% body fat (if that) beats 5'2" 250 lb pillsberry doughboy everyday of the week.

776.041 Use of force by aggressor.—The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:
(1) Is attempting to commit, committing, or escaping after the commission of, a forcible felony; or
(2) Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless:
(a) Such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant; or
(b) In good faith, the person withdraws from physical contact with the assailant and indicates clearly to the assailant that he or she desires to withdraw and terminate the use of force, but the assailant continues or resumes the use of force.
History.—s. 13, ch. 74-383; s. 1190, ch. 97-102.

§ 9.31. SELF-DEFENSE. (a) Except as provided in
Subsection (b), a person is justified in using force against
another when and to the degree he reasonably believes the force is
immediately necessary to protect himself against the other's use or
attempted use of unlawful force.
(b) The use of force against another is not justified:
(1) in response to verbal provocation alone;
(2) to resist an arrest or search that the actor knows
is being made by a peace officer, or by a person acting in a peace
officer's presence and at his direction, even though the arrest or
search is unlawful, unless the resistance is justified under
Subsection (c);
(3) if the actor consented to the exact force used or
attempted by the other;
(4) if the actor provoked the other's use or attempted
use of unlawful force, unless:
(A) the actor abandons the encounter, or clearly
communicates to the other his intent to do so reasonably believing
he cannot safely abandon the encounter; and
(B) the other nevertheless continues or attempts
to use unlawful force against the actor; or
(5) if the actor sought an explanation from or
discussion with the other person concerning the actor's differences
with the other person while the actor was:
(A) carrying a weapon in violation of Section
46.02; or
(B) possessing or transporting a weapon in
violation of Section 46.05.
(c) The use of force to resist an arrest or search is
justified:
(1) if, before the actor offers any resistance, the
peace officer (or person acting at his direction) uses or attempts
to use greater force than necessary to make the arrest or search;
and
(2) when and to the degree the actor reasonably
believes the force is immediately necessary to protect himself
against the peace officer's (or other person's) use or attempted use
of greater force than necessary.
(d) The use of deadly force is not justified under this
subchapter except as provided in Sections 9.32, 9.33, and 9.34.

baldeagle wrote:

jmra wrote:

pbwalker wrote:Not sure if this has been posted already, but I love how the media is using a picture from 5 years ago to paint the kid as this sweet, innocent angel. I'm not saying we've never posed for stupid pictures in the past, or that it makes it ok to be shot, but the media is really doing a bang up job on this.

**Attaching photo instead of linking it directly. The kid is flipping the bird, so be warned**

Yep! Looks like a thug to me! Shirtless, double bird flipping, pants sagging thug! Has nothing to do with skin color - everything to do with poor parenting and a general disrespect for others.

So much for the whole size debate. 6'2" 170 lb 10% body fat (if that) beats 5'2" 250 lb pillsberry doughboy everyday of the week.

The police report puts Trayvon at 6'0" and 160lb and Zimmerman at 5'9" but no weight specified. It's hard to sort through all the baloney to get to the facts.