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Re: Urgent: XDs recall...

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:51 pm
by RKirkwood
My upgraded pistol arrived today with a small case and one free 7 round extended mag !! :woohoo :anamatedbanana

Now off to the range this weekend to try it out. :fire

Re: Urgent: XDs recall...

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:11 am
by RogueUSMC
The Annoyed Man wrote:
Cedar Park Dad wrote:
As a side note, because so many discussion board “experts” skip over this. a heavier trigger pull isn’t the worst thing when talking about striker fired guns. Everyone’s biggest complaint on striker guns is that the trigger is too light, when compared to a double action/single action semi-automatic or a double action revolver.
Interestingly, I've never heard that as a complaint of DAO guns before. Learn something new every day :tiphat:
Yeah, I thought that "Everyone's" description was a little broad. When I first started carrying with my CHL, I carried a cocked and locked Sig 1911. Hard to imagine a striker trigger getting lighter and crisper than that.
Cocked and locked would be a single action trigger pull...if your single action trigger pull on a double action pistol is heavier than ANY striker fired pistol, you need serious work on your trigger. If he is saying it is lighter than most double action trigger pulls, he would probably be right.

Re: Urgent: XDs recall...

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:57 am
by The Annoyed Man
RogueUSMC wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
Cedar Park Dad wrote:
As a side note, because so many discussion board “experts” skip over this. a heavier trigger pull isn’t the worst thing when talking about striker fired guns. Everyone’s biggest complaint on striker guns is that the trigger is too light, when compared to a double action/single action semi-automatic or a double action revolver.
Interestingly, I've never heard that as a complaint of DAO guns before. Learn something new every day :tiphat:
Yeah, I thought that "Everyone's" description was a little broad. When I first started carrying with my CHL, I carried a cocked and locked Sig 1911. Hard to imagine a striker trigger getting lighter and crisper than that.
Cocked and locked would be a single action trigger pull...if your single action trigger pull on a double action pistol is heavier than ANY striker fired pistol, you need serious work on your trigger. If he is saying it is lighter than most double action trigger pulls, he would probably be right.
From the article:
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7 lb 6.5 oz is probably lighter than most double action triggers.

Re: Urgent: XDs recall...

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 2:23 pm
by Shoot_First
My XDs .45 came home from its IL vacation today. I note the grip is a longer with the free magazine provided by SA and the slide may be just a tad bit wider, but I dry fired 9 rounds at 15 yards into a 1" group, so the upgraded accuracy seems to be better. I sent it to SA dirty since I was afraid to clean it out of safety concerns, but it came home clean and well lubed.

Actually, I cannot tell any difference at all. I had shot about 400 rounds through it before I sent it to SA. Per a Lyman digital trigger gauge, the pull averages 7 pounds, 8 ounces. The pull is smooth with a clean break without over travel. I will get it to the range ASAP and put a 100 rounds through it.

Included with the pistol and free mag was a note from Denny Reese and a card telling me to go to SA's web site to download the updated XDs manual or call SA to have one mailed.

If anyone is really unhappy with their XDs 9mm, I will take it off your hands for 300 bucks.

Re: Urgent: XDs recall...

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 2:29 pm
by carlson1
Shoot_First wrote: I note the grip is a longer with the free magazine provided by SA and the slide may be just a tad bit wider, but I dry fired 9 rounds at 15 yards into a 1" group, so the upgraded accuracy seems to be better.
I may have misread because I am on my phone, but how do you "dry fire at 15 yards and get a one inch group?" :headscratch

Re: Urgent: XDs recall...

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 2:37 pm
by Shoot_First
carlson1 wrote:
Shoot_First wrote: I note the grip is a longer with the free magazine provided by SA and the slide may be just a tad bit wider, but I dry fired 9 rounds at 15 yards into a 1" group, so the upgraded accuracy seems to be better.
I may have misread because I am on my phone, but how do you "dry fire at 15 yards and get a one inch group?" :headscratch
When I measure the imaginary dry fire bullet holes the groups are always better than at the range. Gotcha. :evil2:

Re: Urgent: XDs recall...

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 2:41 pm
by carlson1
Shoot_First wrote:
carlson1 wrote:
Shoot_First wrote: I note the grip is a longer with the free magazine provided by SA and the slide may be just a tad bit wider, but I dry fired 9 rounds at 15 yards into a 1" group, so the upgraded accuracy seems to be better.
I may have misread because I am on my phone, but how do you "dry fire at 15 yards and get a one inch group?" :headscratch
When I measure the imaginary dry fire bullet holes the groups are always better than at the range. Gotcha. :evil2:
:smilelol5: yes you did.

Re: Urgent: XDs recall...

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:52 am
by Excaliber
Status change:

Gun delivered to Springfield on September 5.

Showing "Fixed" on November 2.

They're starting to really crank through the backlog.

Re: Urgent: XDs recall...

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:28 am
by RogueUSMC
Shoot_First wrote:My XDs .45 came home from...and the slide may be just a tad bit wider...
??

Re: Urgent: XDs recall...

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:50 pm
by Shoot_First
RogueUSMC wrote:
Shoot_First wrote:My XDs .45 came home from...and the slide may be just a tad bit wider...
??
Perhaps it is because of the new slide mounted safety. :evil2:

Re: Urgent: XDs recall...

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:53 pm
by RogueUSMC
Shoot_First wrote:
RogueUSMC wrote:
Shoot_First wrote:My XDs .45 came home from...and the slide may be just a tad bit wider...
??
Perhaps it is because of the new slide mounted safety. :evil2:
lol...you ain't right dude...

Re: Urgent: XDs recall...

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:11 pm
by lrpettit
Shoot_First wrote:ATDM, Teamless, & Irpettit: My status just changed to "Your gun has been fixed." How about yours?
My status has changed to "Your gun has been fixed." Still no email though.

Re: Urgent: XDs recall...

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:36 pm
by Shoot_First
RogueUSMC wrote:
Shoot_First wrote:
RogueUSMC wrote:
Shoot_First wrote:My XDs .45 came home from...and the slide may be just a tad bit wider...
??
Perhaps it is because of the new slide mounted safety. :evil2:
lol...you ain't right dude...
You ain't the first to say that. Perhaps because I'm rogue US Army Retired after over 31 years of active duty. My initial post after I got my XDs ,45 back from SA was all in jest after having read on the XD Talk forum about how much different the XDs was post "upgrade." I put about 120 rounds through my fixed XDs ,45 today and find it to be substantially as before I sent it off to SA... the trigger pull seems just a bit higher than before but smooth with no over travel.

Re: Urgent: XDs recall...

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:10 pm
by mr surveyor
Shoot_First wrote:
RogueUSMC wrote:
Shoot_First wrote:
RogueUSMC wrote:
Shoot_First wrote:My XDs .45 came home from...and the slide may be just a tad bit wider...
??
Perhaps it is because of the new slide mounted safety. :evil2:
lol...you ain't right dude...
You ain't the first to say that. Perhaps because I'm rogue US Army Retired after over 31 years of active duty. My initial post after I got my XDs ,45 back from SA was all in jest after having read on the XD Talk forum about how much different the XDs was post "upgrade." I put about 120 rounds through my fixed XDs ,45 today and find it to be substantially as before I sent it off to SA... the trigger pull seems just a bit higher than before but smooth with no over travel.

funny you should mention the "other forum". I always make it a point to register of a brand specific forum if I own any model of that brand, just in case I want to post a question. In the case of that particular "other forum", you have to be a registered member to access pictures. I bought my XDs a couple of weeks before the recall was announced and wanted to see the pic's in the "how to" threads, so I registered to have access to the "knowledge" but hadn't really had time to really put my new XDs through the wringer before the recall (actually caught wind of the recall on a totally separate forum the night it was announced on the 28th, and shipped mine on the morning of the 29th). Then I started following the chatter on the XDs sub forum. Wow, what entertainment :lol: ! Kinda reminds me of the 4th grade.

Even though my XDs didn't come back with the upgrade slide from a Hi-Point, the trigger ended up at 8.8, which is a bit much .... I suppose I could take the time to slick up the sear and striker, and may do that if I ever get the time to even care. Even though this one was intended to eventually get into the carry mode, I had/have plenty of "carry guns" already so this one ain't gonna ruin my life if I decide I just don't like it (or it don't like me).

By the way, did you also get the $25 dollar discount coupon for the 50 round drum magazine?


JD

Re: Urgent: XDs recall...

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:25 pm
by Shoot_First
funny you should mention the "other forum". I always make it a point to register of a brand specific forum if I own any model of that brand, just in case I want to post a question. In the case of that particular "other forum", you have to be a registered member to access pictures. I bought my XDs a couple of weeks before the recall was announced and wanted to see the pic's in the "how to" threads, so I registered to have access to the "knowledge" but hadn't really had time to really put my new XDs through the wringer before the recall (actually caught wind of the recall on a totally separate forum the night it was announced on the 28th, and shipped mine on the morning of the 29th). Then I started following the chatter on the XDs sub forum. Wow, what entertainment :lol: ! Kinda reminds me of the 4th grade.

Even though my XDs didn't come back with the upgrade slide from a Hi-Point, the trigger ended up at 8.8, which is a bit much .... I suppose I could take the time to slick up the sear and striker, and may do that if I ever get the time to even care. Even though this one was intended to eventually get into the carry mode, I had/have plenty of "carry guns" already so this one ain't gonna ruin my life if I decide I just don't like it (or it don't like me).

By the way, did you also get the $25 dollar discount coupon for the 50 round drum magazine?
JD[/quote]

JD... Nope on the higher quality High Point slide and the drum mag, the latter might come in handy if she goes full auto. 8.8 seems a tad high but I had readings all over the place before I wound up with a 7.5 average on 5 pulls. I have not yet rechecked after todays 120 rounds followed by a good cleaning.