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Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:08 am
by Paladin
Can he be prosecuted for assault?
Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:20 am
by chasfm11
tomneal wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:00 am
First let me repeat:
If I thought there was going to be a gun fight, I just wouldn't go.
I think a part of this prosecution is to discourage regular folks, every where, from defending themselves.
I watched parts of the trial. The defense closing arguments were a good summary of the case. Including video. The only mistake I saw from KR was being at the wrong place at the wrong time and getting separated from his buddies. Every shot he took, was defending himself from great bodily harm or death.
Unlike the jurors in this trial,
I have never been in a bar fight.
On the stand, Kyle said that he went to Kenosha to help defend where his father lives. While I can agree with not wanting to be someplace where I know that a gun fight in which I would otherwise have no involvement would breakout, it becomes a more difficult question when family and family property are involved. I've not yet accepted that, as the LAPD recommends, I should just hand over to looters and robbers whatever they want. Whether I would personally have gone to Kenosha if I had family there is a question that is difficult for me to answer. I also have a lot more years of experience than Rittenhouse had a 17. I remember doing some foolish things at that age. Foolish is a lot different than illegal.
I have never doubted the legal precedent that this case could set. If the argument that being armed is automatically provocative enough to wave our right to self defense, as the prosecution is claiming, then all self-defense laws across the country are in jeopardy. It is particularly bad for those of us of advanced years who could not hold our own in a fist fight with a much younger person to hear that Rittenhouse "brought a gun to a fist fight." This case is much larger than just one young boy.
Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:21 am
by Rafe
Rafe wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:28 pm
Powerboatr asked a good question: Does anybody know if the jury is sequestered? Or did they all see the news like we did that the governor had called in the National Guard?
Well, we have our answer this morning. No sequestration.
Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:31 am
by TxRVer
Based on Binger's words own words, he could have been shot in self-defense when he pointed the rifle at the jury.
Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:43 am
by rtschl
I'm one of those who thinks that Rittenhouse was unwise to be there. But I can't fault him because I think he did care for his community (yes it is his community despite the media lies). It's sad that a 17 year old (and the others) thought it necessary to step up and stop the destruction since the City and State decided to let the rioters destroy property the previous nights. The adults in charge and the adults in the community should have been the ones to step up.
That said, his being there as a legal argument is akin to accusing a rape victim of being at fault for her attack because she was in a dangerous place and should have known better.
I agree with many conservative commentators that what's on trial is the 2nd Amendment, the right of self defense, and that scary black rifle - that happens to be the most popular rifle in America. The left in the form of fascism and socialism is going hard after our freedoms in order to control us. We're the target. What is standing in their way is the Bill of Rights - especially the 1st Amendment and 2nd Amendments.
Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:56 am
by Rafe
TxRVer wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:31 am
Based on Binger's words own words, he could have been shot in self-defense when he pointed the rifle at the jury.
What I wouldn't have given to have seen the bailiff draw down on him when he did that and start shouting "Drop the weapon! Drop the weapon!"

Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:30 pm
by Flightmare
Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:43 pm
by powerboatr
just saw that while many news stations carried the whole days events live. msnbc chose to not cover defense closing statements, but did cover both prosecutors closing and rebuttal.... darn sure reminded me of impeachment.
last guy little DA and i use that term in a smart way. had a check list of notes and he put me to sleep fast. drone drone drone
Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:24 pm
by BigGuy
Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:41 pm
by ScottDLS
Why is no one in the courtroom wearing a face diaper? Don't they know there's a global panicdemic going on...or something?

Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:43 pm
by Dave2
Paladin wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:08 am
Can he be prosecuted for assault?
I’d laugh pretty hard if that happened, but I’m not entirely sure it’s the interpretation of the law that we want… seems like it might be abused to go after people who don’t deserve it. I’m totally open to having my mind changed on the matter, though.
Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:01 pm
by Paladin
Rittenhouse-Lying Media Deliberately Incite Riots in Democrat-run Cities
The Democrats who live in these cities are literally empowering the very monsters seeking to destroy their communities.
Sad, but still fascinating to witness.
The good news is that this is all the fake media’s got anymore. All they can do to feel influential is scream “FIRE” in a crowded theater. My guess is that pretty soon, they won’t even be able to do that.
Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:18 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
tomneal wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:00 am
First let me repeat:
If I thought there was going to be a gun fight, I just wouldn't go.
I think a part of this prosecution is to discourage regular folks, every where, from defending themselves.
I watched parts of the trial. The defense closing arguments were a good summary of the case. Including video. The only mistake I saw from KR was being at the wrong place at the wrong time and getting separated from his buddies. Every shot he took, was defending himself from great bodily harm or death.
Unlike the jurors in this trial,
I have never been in a bar fight.
I ran from a bar that had a fight breaking out. Got on my bike and was down the road before you could say spit. Don't know how it turned out. I went in thinking it looked like a nice place to met other Harley riders. Guess not. Careful where you stop when on a lone road trip.
Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:01 pm
by philip964
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa ... n-n2599144
Beating a dead horse but, Prosecutor may have committed a misdemeanor.
Shows which lady he pointed the rifle at.
Idiot post says but it wasn’t loaded. Ask Alec about that as well.
Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:20 pm
by powerboatr
that would worth watching him be arrested at end of trial.
when or if kyle is found NG, he should sue biden for defamation of character for calling him a racist and white supremacist last year
i have never been in a bar fight either.. but i would never take fists to a gun fight
