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My wife flies thru Chicago O'Hare today, and I can surf for hours on the two planes she's flying into-and-out-of but regardless that is no consolation to me because the ground workers at ORD are exposed to every kind of possibility given the international nature of O'Hare.

We hope better treatment can be found for this disease or it will be dust-to-dust. Does anyone else see the irony of mankind's origins becoming also mankind's end? Yeah I know, some felt that way about AIDS but this spreads a little more easily doesn't it. Maybe AIDS was just a test by TBTWNGCBC.

TomsTXCHL wrote:My wife flies thru Chicago O'Hare today, and I can surf for hours on the two planes she's flying into-and-out-of but regardless that is no consolation to me because the ground workers at ORD are exposed to every kind of possibility given the international nature of O'Hare.

We hope better treatment can be found for this disease or it will be dust-to-dust. Does anyone else see the irony of mankind's origins becoming also mankind's end? Yeah I know, some felt that way about AIDS but this spreads a little more easily doesn't it. Maybe AIDS was just a test by TBTWNGCBC.

Clever. I had to actually look that one up.

I had one, count 'em one, Philosophy 101 class in college 45+ years ago where you were asked to prove-or-disprove the existence of God (you can't do either) and the odd acronym TBTWNGCBC stuck with me.

God will either help us all, or He is calling us home.

I read the Hot Zone many years ago.

Because we are the dominant species on earth, and with air travel; a virus, with just the right combination of incubation period, lethality, and method of being spread, will end that domination.

It is only a matter of time.

anygunanywhere wrote:

MeMelYup wrote:Ebola gets a foothold in the U.S., what part of the cities will be hit the hardest?

Democrat strongholds.

ما شاء الله

It has been a rough few weeks. Between ISIS, Ebola, all the other most recent diseases making a debut here in the U.S. my mommy heart has been up in arms. It is a wild and scary world and our leaders, those empowered to protect us from such insanity, choose to sit on their hands and watch the world burn. That leads a mom to desperation and even more fervent prayer where I have found comfort. We are left in the hands of God with His good purposes as our defense, which as a person of faith is where I believe we all started out in the first place.

That has been a comfort to me. Thought I would share.

That is not to say I have not reviewed the importance of hand washing with my crew. I have also picked up more hand sanitizer and sanitizing wipes. But that was due anyway with the cold and flu season.

tacticool wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote:

MeMelYup wrote:Ebola gets a foothold in the U.S., what part of the cities will be hit the hardest?

Democrat strongholds.

ما شاء الله

So let's recap. Four people lived with Duncan for several days while he was symptomatic. Almost 100 people had contact with Duncan (how much we don't know) and have now passed the 21 day incubation period. None of them contracted Ebola. Doesn't that prove that it is not transmitted through the air? Two health workers who cared for Duncan contracted Ebola. Other healthcare workers from several countries have contracted Ebola. Doesn't that prove that the current protocols are tragically insufficient? While the jury is still out, it looks like Ebola isn't the hair-trigger threat that it's been made out to be.

baldeagle wrote:So let's recap. Four people lived with Duncan for several days while he was symptomatic. Almost 100 people had contact with Duncan (how much we don't know) and have now passed the 21 day incubation period. None of them contracted Ebola. Doesn't that prove that it is not transmitted through the air? Two health workers who cared for Duncan contracted Ebola. Other healthcare workers from several countries have contracted Ebola. Doesn't that prove that the current protocols are tragically insufficient? While the jury is still out, it looks like Ebola isn't the hair-trigger threat that it's been made out to be.

Those living with Eric Duncan knew he had ebola early on. The workers who decontaminated the apartment reported disposing of lots of used gloves, masks, and other protective stuff. They were not casually in contact with him. The nurses were caring for him when he had full-blown-spew-virus-by-the-bazillion-ebola. I do not think this disproves the airborne (mist) theory but it does show the gaps in the PPE and protocols that the CDC and failure in chief said were adequate.

anygunanywhere wrote:Those living with Eric Duncan knew he had ebola early on. The workers who decontaminated the apartment reported disposing of lots of used gloves, masks, and other protective stuff. They were not casually in contact with him. The nurses were caring for him when he had full-blown-spew-virus-by-the-bazillion-ebola. I do not think this disproves the airborne (mist) theory but it does show the gaps in the PPE and protocols that the CDC and failure in chief said were adequate.

So, IOW, a bunch of Liberian immigrants had a better response plan than the CDC?

Of course, Perry getting a task force together 10 days after the first documentable transmission of it in the country, designating a couple of appropriate treatment facilities, and even putting a doctor who specialized in infectious diseases before he got too busy leading big, serious stuff in charge of the whole mess is doing wonders for his image at the moment.

It is a sigh of relief that no one else in his family got it. What that means is up for debate but by all measures it is a positive thing. They need better suites/protocols at the hospital that much is obvious as well.

What it means is Duncan disclosed to his family from the onset that he was probably infected so they took precautions. What I don't understand is why he didn't extend the same courtesy to the hospital and the people taking care of him on the first visit. This is just my theory and opinion about why his family didn't contract the disease.

KD5NRH wrote:So, IOW, a bunch of Liberian immigrants had a better response plan than the CDC?

The immigrants are private sector.

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Doctor in New York City tests positive for Ebola.

Went bowling yesterday.

According to a website I can't vouch for, Ebola patients are disappearing from hospitals. They come in with Ebola symptoms, but arnt there the next day when hospital staff ask about a patient who came in the night before. Seems far fetched that the CDC could keep this under wraps.