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Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:50 pm
by rtschl
Concerning if true. Posobeic has a solid history of news scoops. Hopefully the jury isn't intimidated, but how could not be?

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status ... 8316418051
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status ... 1980149760

Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:51 pm
by G.A. Heath
powerboatr wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:20 pm
philip964 wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:01 pm https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa ... n-n2599144

Beating a dead horse but, Prosecutor may have committed a misdemeanor.

Shows which lady he pointed the rifle at.

Idiot post says but it wasn’t loaded. Ask Alec about that as well.
that would worth watching him be arrested at end of trial. :tiphat:

when or if kyle is found NG, he should sue biden for defamation of character for calling him a racist and white supremacist last year

i have never been in a bar fight either.. but i would never take fists to a gun fight :banghead:
I forget where I saw it but one vlawgs I have been watching covered this. Essentially KR can sue, but his damages are very limited due to the damage the trial has done to his character.

Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:55 pm
by philip964
This says 2 jurors holding up due to intimidation.

This would indicate not guilty by others.

Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 7:03 pm
by flechero
rtschl wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:50 pm Concerning if true.
Understatement of the week!

Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 7:11 pm
by rtschl
flechero wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 7:03 pm
rtschl wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:50 pm Concerning if true.
Understatement of the week!
Yeah, but in my defense I'm a little hesitant to trust anonymous sources of jury deliberations. But having served on one, it isn't a soundproof room they're deliberating in. It's not like the leftists and anarchists haven't been doxing people at their jobs, homes, and burned down their town last year. Further reports are that the jurors can hear the protesters outside. This is intimidation and nothing less. But nothing was said about any of this in the courtroom before the jury was sent home for the night.

Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 7:26 pm
by chasfm11
Here is yet another angle that I had not heard put together this way.

1. Jacob Blake was shot by a racist white cop.
2. The riots which protested the racist shooting were righteous
3. Anyone who opposed the righteous riots is a white supremacist, attempting to suppress righteous anger.
4. The guys that Rittenhouse shot were rioting and advancing the cause against white supremacy and therefore, regardless of their skin color “brothers” of the cause
5. People who oppose the cause need to be destroyed. Anyone who doesn’t want to see Rittenhouse killed or jailed for life is also a white supremacist and needs to destroyed, too.

This is how you get to the matter being racial even without a person of color involved.

Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 7:32 pm
by Ruark
Uh, yeah, how does he know this? In any case, it seems to me like if they feel they can't participate in the jury process, for whatever reason, they should tell the judge and have him send in a couple of alternate jurors.

Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:39 pm
by rtschl
This just gets worse and worse for the DA:

1. Claim that DA withheld evidence (link to story and tweet)
2. Claim that DA knows who jump kick man is
3. Software used by DA's experts states it is not to be used for evidence, only for investigative purposes

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... fense.html

https://twitter.com/shipwreckedcrew/sta ... 6900583424
https://twitter.com/ViktoriiaUAH/status ... 7634601989
https://twitter.com/DefNotDarth/status/ ... 6189059072

Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:49 pm
by srothstein
Paladin wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:07 am The Real Reason the Left Hates Kyle Rittenhouse
That right there is why they hate Kyle. They hate Kyle, because he showed the world, exactly why someone might need an AR-15.
I had not thought of this part of it before, but they are right that this is pretty damaging to the left's arguments against "assault rifles".

Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:01 pm
by rtschl
Adding to my post above about the DA withholding evidence... Edited to add next page of motion

Here's the difference in video quality that the defense was not given and motion to dismiss with prejudice:

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status ... 8596183044
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status ... 0337028097

Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:23 pm
by C-dub
Remember back when there was this thought about the prosecutor intentionally going for a mistrial? The result of that could've been a mistrial with prejudice that would prevent any retrial due to double jeopardy because of intentionally throwing this one. I gotta say that this also smacks of being intentional, but with the hopes of being discovered after the jury has begun deliberation to avoid that mistrial with prejudice thing. Unless that is still on the table?

Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:17 am
by FastCarry
C-dub wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:23 pm Remember back when there was this thought about the prosecutor intentionally going for a mistrial? The result of that could've been a mistrial with prejudice that would prevent any retrial due to double jeopardy because of intentionally throwing this one. I gotta say that this also smacks of being intentional, but with the hopes of being discovered after the jury has begun deliberation to avoid that mistrial with prejudice thing. Unless that is still on the table?
Still on the table, rekieta law is covering it now. Apparently theres a difference on whether or not the mistrial with prejudice is appealable if its ruled on before or after the jury has reached a verdict.

Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:12 am
by rtschl
ADA Binger:"This isn't the same quality as our version is it?"
ADA Kraus"Our version is much clearer"

https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/statu ... 4356929537

Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:09 am
by Paladin
rtschl wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:01 pm Adding to my post above about the DA withholding evidence... Edited to add next page of motion

Here's the difference in video quality that the defense was not given and motion to dismiss with prejudice:

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status ... 8596183044
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status ... 0337028097
The prosecutor should be out of a job. He is a worse threat to the community than that childmolester Joseph Rosenbaum. I could watch that HD video all day.

Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:07 am
by Dave2
rtschl wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:01 pm Adding to my post above about the DA withholding evidence... Edited to add next page of motion

Here's the difference in video quality that the defense was not given and motion to dismiss with prejudice:

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status ... 8596183044
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status ... 0337028097
If I’m not mistaken, the courthouse opened a few minutes ago. I guess we’ll know what the judge thinks of all this fairly soon. Does anyone know what time the jury is set to reconvene?