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Cohen was charged by the local New York Federal prosecutor not The Special Prosecutor, except for one charge lying to Congress. He apparently told Congress that a real estate deal in Moscow ended in early 2016, when it actually ended in June of 2016. The real estate deal never materialized.

He committed a number of tax evasion crimes, but all anyone cares about is pleading guilty to campaign violations. From CNBC:

“Cohen's other crimes included campaign finance violations relating to his facilitation of two hush-money payments to Daniels and Playboy model Karen McDougal shortly before the 2016 presidential election. Both women say they had sex with Trump a decade earlier.
Prosecutors said the payments were made "in coordination with and at the direction of" Trump, and that the money was paid to "influence the election."”

It’s my understanding that campaign funds were not used in these hush payments. If campaign funds were used to me it changes everything.

But since the payments influenced the election they should have been disclosed per the New York prosecutor. Cohen agreed by pleading guilty to this, or to get a lower sentence for tax evasion.

Michael Berry the radio host suggested that if a potential candidate, painted his or her home that should be disclosed since having a nice looking house would “influence the election”.

Trump was recorded before the election saying that he could grab woman as he wished. To me I think every Trump voter knew what they were voting for and against.

Suri wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:34 pm

philip964 wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:44 pm Trump was recorded before the election saying that he could grab woman as he wished. To me I think every Trump voter knew what they were voting for and against.

Good point. All that mattered to voters was avoiding HRC and conservative SCOTUS appointees. The hush money as a campaign factor seems like a stretch.

I voted for Trump because I am sick and tired of Washington insiders with law degrees accomplishing nothing. The hope that he would turn that cesspool in Washington upside down was gravy.

bbhack wrote: Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:31 am General Flynn will not spend one second behind bars. I mention this because his name keeps coming up as someone who has been caught in the Russia trap. I do not know why he plead guilty. Could be for money reasons. Could be for other reasons.

General Flynn will not spend one second behind bars. There is a judge who is in deep trouble. Another judge is very angry. The first is Contreras, the second is Sullivan.

If you disagree, I'll wager $100. This is not against forum rules, although I'm sure it will be soon.

Case will be thrown out, and others will go down. Maybe even Mueller.

https://quodverum.com/2018/12/346/gener ... y-one.html

No more bets.

The Mueller plea deal with General Flynn, filed on 1 December, 2017, is explicit : it says that on 24 January 2017, Flynn lied to the FBI (Strzok) by saying that he had not talked with Ambassador Kislyak about possible sanctions relief, when in fact he had.

However, there is a complication. Prior to 1 December, 2017, Strzok and the other FBI agent had said the opposite - that Flynn had told them the truth. Even James Comey has admitted the same, to Congress. In other words, the General was open with the FBI that he had been communicating with Kislyak about possible sanctions relief, a normal and legal act by an NSA for an incoming administration.

So how does General Flynn telling the truth on 24 January, 2017 become him lying to the FBI on 1 December, 2017? Simple : the ‘facts’ underlying the communications were changed.

Someone, almost certainly Andrew McCabe and Peter Strzok, re-wrote the original late January 2017 FD 302, to falsely portray General Flynn as saying that he had not spoken with ambassador Kislyak. When was the 302 altered? Footnote 23 (my bold) of last night’s memorandum provides the answer:

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/ ... ip-1059825

Nancy Pelosi seals deal with left wing rebels and will become new speaker of the house.

Can we expect national reciprocal concealed carry now with a new team in charge?

philip964 wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:43 pm https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... tions.html

Cohen sentenced to three years.

Imagine if Bill Clinton’s or Obama’s personal lawyer was arrested and charged. Let that sink in.

I will miss the two. It gave perspective to your thoughts.

Agreed. Was good to see people with different opinions display their actions whether we agreed with them or not. Side note , do you guys really think Mexico is going to pay for the wall as Trump says? Just curious to hear your thoughts.

philip964 wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:43 pm ... Side note , do you guys really think Mexico is going to pay for the wall as Trump says? Just curious to hear your thoughts.

I never expected that Mexico would send Trump a government check marked "Payment for the Wall." I do think that less money will be flowing to Mexico and that more will be spent in the USA.

https://news.yahoo.com/donald-trump-may ... 57738.html

Donald Trump May cheat and pay women to be quiet, but it won’t get him impeached. USA Today editorial.

oljames3 wrote: Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:52 pm

philip964 wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:43 pm ... Side note , do you guys really think Mexico is going to pay for the wall as Trump says? Just curious to hear your thoughts.

I never expected that Mexico would send Trump a government check marked "Payment for the Wall." I do think that less money will be flowing to Mexico and that more will be spent in the USA.

Not me.

I think Trump planned to get congress to pass a tax on wire transfers to Mexico to pay for the wall. But Republican controlled House and Senate could not get anything done in two years except raising my taxes.

Besides he didn’t say read my lips or I didn’t have sex with that woman.

I never took what Trump said to mean Mexico was going to be writing a check. That would have been pretty darned naive to believe, although we do have a generation of very simple humans among us now. I believe Mexico would be paying for the wall in less American dollars from drugs, illegals who send money back to circulate their economy and possibly a raised tariff or two.

03Lightningrocks wrote: Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:20 pm I never took what Trump said to mean Mexico was going to be writing a check. That would have been pretty darned naive to believe, although we do have a generation of very simple humans among us now. I believe Mexico would be paying for the wall in less American dollars from drugs, illegals who send money back to circulate their economy and possibly a raised tariff or two.

The only way I see Mexico paying to build a wall is if huuuge amounts of illegal aliens started migrating back to their home countries.

bblhd672 wrote: Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:54 pm

03Lightningrocks wrote: Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:20 pm I never took what Trump said to mean Mexico was going to be writing a check. That would have been pretty darned naive to believe, although we do have a generation of very simple humans among us now. I believe Mexico would be paying for the wall in less American dollars from drugs, illegals who send money back to circulate their economy and possibly a raised tariff or two.

The only way I see Mexico paying to build a wall is if huuuge amounts of illegal aliens started migrating back to their home countries.

If aliens enter illegally across the Mexican border, send them back to Mexico no matter where they come from originally, and maybe Mexico will build a wall on their other border.

Although, if the feds stopped paying subsidies for illegals, and stop reimbursement to state and local government for any services they provide to anyone other than citizens and resident aliens, that would help a lot. I can't go to Canada and get FREE! healthcare, even if I'm a legal tourist. No free school in Canada for legal tourists either. There's no good reason for American taxpayers to be more generous to criminal foreigners than Canada is to Americans who enter their country legally.

Tougher laws with significant financial penalties for employing illegals would also help but big corporations pay billions to politicians to stop that from happening.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump ... 2018-12-13

I think Trump should have a Reality TV show to choose his next chief of staff.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46587185

Trump will review Green Beret being charge with murder of Taliban bomb maker.

Also posted under this subject, but wanted to make sure history understands the difference between Trump and Obama.

I don’t think Trump is going to get the votes in 2020 he thought he’d get: