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I am very confused. I do not remember my CHL instructor going over 30.05, and I have never seen a sign for one. Will someone please explain this to me, in easy to understand language.

30.05 is the criminal tresspassing statute, and your CHL instructor probably didn't go over it because it doesn't apply to CHLs differently than to anyone else. No need to worry.

As promised

kitty wrote:I am very confused. I do not remember my CHL instructor going over 30.05, and I have never seen a sign for one. Will someone please explain this to me, in easy to understand language.

The sign (as posted just before me) is a notice that people without a CHL are not allowed to carry a concealed handgun on those premises. It doesn't apply to a CHL holder at all. It also doesn't make anything illegal that wasn't already illegal.

Kalrog wrote:

kitty wrote:I am very confused. I do not remember my CHL instructor going over 30.05, and I have never seen a sign for one. Will someone please explain this to me, in easy to understand language.

The sign (as posted just before me) is a notice that people without a CHL are not allowed to carry a concealed handgun on those premises. It doesn't apply to a CHL holder at all. It also doesn't make anything illegal that wasn't already illegal.

Ahhh. Ok. So, if I see a sign like that one, and they try to change the language to include CHL's, it's not valid because it's not a 30.06 sign? Is that correct? Well, what about railroad property, and the infrastructure language for the 30.05 penal code, do those still not apply as well?

kitty wrote:Ahhh. Ok. So, if I see a sign like that one, and they try to change the language to include CHL's, it's not valid because it's not a 30.06 sign? Is that correct? Well, what about railroad property, and the infrastructure language for the 30.05 penal code, do those still not apply as well?

you probably won't be jumping fences and running through a trainyard any time soon... i hope.

Lykoi wrote:you probably won't be jumping fences and running through a trainyard any time soon... i hope.

Probably not. But if you also happen to be railfan, it isn't unthinkable that you will encounter an overzealous local officer.

He may not be clear on boundaries or he may be of the opinion that taking pictures is illegal. It happens.

No, I shouldn't be running through any railroads, but if I decide I want to go to Grapevine and ride the vintage train Tarantula to the stockyards and back, or if I want to go to a national forest or a state park for something I want to know if I can legally carry there. I'm assuming I can, unless they post a 30.06 sign. That's why I was asking.

Lykoi wrote:you probably won't be jumping fences and running through a trainyard any time soon... i hope.

So now fenced railyards are the only places railroad property exists?

KEEP UP

jimlongley wrote:

Lykoi wrote:you probably won't be jumping fences and running through a trainyard any time soon... i hope.

So now fenced railyards are the only places railroad property exists?

KEEP UP

"Critical infrastructure facility" means one of
the following, if completely enclosed by a fence or other physical
barrier that is obviously designed to exclude intruders:

no it's not the only place railroad property exists... but if you read the actual PC it specifically states it must be "enclosed completely" by a fence or other physical barrier... so yeah

if you want to stop trying to be so condescending this might go more smoothly as a discussion.