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Re: Campus-Carry Bills Filed Today
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:06 am
by Codename46
Any takers on what the odds of this bill passing would be?
Re: Campus-Carry Bills Filed Today
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:14 am
by Liberty
Mine would be 3:2 but I have no more insite than anyone else.
Re: Campus-Carry Bills Filed Today
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:45 pm
by Douva
I couldn't get any of the major Texas newspapers to carry my latest op-ed, but it's in the University of North Texas student newspaper:
http://www.ntdaily.com/media/storage/pa ... 8531.shtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
As typically happens with op-eds, the paper picked a title that doesn't really capture what the article is about. The editors made a couple of relatively minor editorial changes to the article (one is kind of confusing; I'll let you try to spot it on your own), but they didn't butcher it, so I'm relatively pleased that it at least got published somewhere. Trying to get pro-gun op-eds published in mainstream news publications can be a daunting task.
If you want to see the sources of the statistics used, they're cited in the "
SCCC Handbook: Texas Edition."
Re: Campus-Carry Bills Filed Today
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:04 pm
by dontshakepandas
Just read and commented on the article. As a CHL holder and a student at UNT, I really appreciate your effort. Some of the anti comments so far do not surprise me. Some of these people are so clueless to what is going on around them.
Re: Campus-Carry Bills Filed Today
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 5:59 pm
by getusumtx
Like few other members have done, I have also submitted an op-ed to the UT@ Arlington school paper. The Editorial staff attempted to chop my article to pieces, and I had to fight tooth an nail for almost every stat i mentioned. Somehow stating the number of murders declined by 17% after the CHL law was passed in texas was an inaccurate statement(2022 in 94/ 1693 in 95). Check out the article for yourself along with there opposing argument here:
http://www.theshorthorn.com/index.php?o ... &Itemid=59" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Campus-Carry Bills Filed Today
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:16 pm
by Douva
getusumtx wrote:Like few other members have done, I have also submitted an op-ed to the UT@ Arlington school paper. The Editorial staff attempted to chop my article to pieces, and I had to fight tooth an nail for almost every stat i mentioned. Somehow stating the number of murders declined by 17% after the CHL law was passed in texas was an inaccurate statement(2022 in 94/ 1693 in 95). Check out the article for yourself along with there opposing argument here:
http://www.theshorthorn.com/index.php?o ... &Itemid=59" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Well, the obvious problem with that stat is that Texas didn't start issuing CHLs until '96.
Re: Campus-Carry Bills Filed Today
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:31 pm
by getusumtx
The CHL law went into effect Sept 1 1995, didnt it?
Re: Campus-Carry Bills Filed Today
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:36 pm
by Douva
getusumtx wrote:The CHL law went into effect Sept 1 1995, didnt it?
They began taking applications on September 1, 1995, but they didn't start issuing licenses until January 1, 1996.
Re: Campus-Carry Bills Filed Today
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:37 am
by Douva
Here are a couple more op-eds from the University of North Texas student newspaper:
An opposing op-ed that appeared Tuesday, March 10 -
http://media.www.ntdaily.com/media/stor ... 6657.shtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A rebuttal to the opposing op-ed, that appeared Wednesday, March 11 -
http://media.www.ntdaily.com/media/stor ... 8018.shtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Campus-Carry Bills Filed Today
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:06 am
by nitrogen
Would this bill prevent a university from having a "no handguns honor code" type rule, where you could be expelled, but not arrested?
Re: Campus-Carry Bills Filed Today
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:08 am
by KD5NRH
nitrogen wrote:Would this bill prevent a university from having a "no handguns honor code" type rule, where you could be expelled, but not arrested?
I'm pretty sure that would still be a "rule, regulation, or other provision prohibiting license holders from carrying handguns on the campus of the institution."
Re: Campus-Carry Bills Filed Today
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:20 pm
by Douva
KD5NRH wrote:nitrogen wrote:Would this bill prevent a university from having a "no handguns honor code" type rule, where you could be expelled, but not arrested?
I'm pretty sure that would still be a "rule, regulation, or other provision prohibiting license holders from carrying handguns on the campus of the institution."
Here is the exact text pertaining to what institutions of higher education could/couldn't regulate:
(c) An institution of higher education or private or independent institution of higher education in this state may not adopt any rule, regulation, or other provision prohibiting license holders from carrying handguns on the campus of the institution.
(d) An institution of higher education or private or independent institution of higher education in this state may establish rules, regulations, or other provisions concerning the storage of handguns in dormitories or other residential buildings that are owned or operated by the institution and located on the campus of the institution.