Re: DOD destroying spent casings?
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:20 pm
Hello. I found this on one of the forums today and have seen similar reports on other ones:
“... The facts as I know them, which come directly from candid discussions with my CEO, indicate the following:
- Prior to 11/2008, Demil B items required no mutilation for sale to the public. That policy changed in November, but several exceptions were granted. Expended munitions brass was one of those given a waiver.
- Enter the new administration. Since Demil B category items had been given a broad, general label as "national security sensitive" someone above the DRMS (likely in the DLA) reviewed the policy and immediately went with a CYA policy and yanked all exemptions. No thoughts or considerations were given to the implications of this policy change, but this directive was issued to DOD Surplus effective immediately last week.
- Big storm blows up as a result. In particular, the letters, phone calls, and emails to our legislators, the media, and anyone else who would listen caused this policy to be review post haste.
- As of this morning our company was informed that expended munitions brass will now be reclassified as Demil Q –– which requires no mutilation unless sold to a foreign country.
There you have it. The policy change was simply the result of some n00b administrator attempting to close a perceived "national security" loophole and brass got caught up in the snare. There was no political motivation behind the policy change, but it is good that people like us were suspicious, got involved, and helped bring about a resolution.”
I checked at http://www.georgia-arms" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; today and the notice concerning this and their discontinuing .223 and .308 loads is gone as of 6:34PM
Further checking on other sites where this matter was being discussed yields that it will take roughly 24 hours for changes about this on auctions for fired cases to show up. In other words, some may still show that the cases have to be destroyed but should not after the 24-hour time-period has passed.
Best.
“... The facts as I know them, which come directly from candid discussions with my CEO, indicate the following:
- Prior to 11/2008, Demil B items required no mutilation for sale to the public. That policy changed in November, but several exceptions were granted. Expended munitions brass was one of those given a waiver.
- Enter the new administration. Since Demil B category items had been given a broad, general label as "national security sensitive" someone above the DRMS (likely in the DLA) reviewed the policy and immediately went with a CYA policy and yanked all exemptions. No thoughts or considerations were given to the implications of this policy change, but this directive was issued to DOD Surplus effective immediately last week.
- Big storm blows up as a result. In particular, the letters, phone calls, and emails to our legislators, the media, and anyone else who would listen caused this policy to be review post haste.
- As of this morning our company was informed that expended munitions brass will now be reclassified as Demil Q –– which requires no mutilation unless sold to a foreign country.
There you have it. The policy change was simply the result of some n00b administrator attempting to close a perceived "national security" loophole and brass got caught up in the snare. There was no political motivation behind the policy change, but it is good that people like us were suspicious, got involved, and helped bring about a resolution.”
I checked at http://www.georgia-arms" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; today and the notice concerning this and their discontinuing .223 and .308 loads is gone as of 6:34PM
Further checking on other sites where this matter was being discussed yields that it will take roughly 24 hours for changes about this on auctions for fired cases to show up. In other words, some may still show that the cases have to be destroyed but should not after the 24-hour time-period has passed.
Best.
JMHO
My eyes are getting tired from keeping them peeled.
