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KD5NRH wrote:

bdickens wrote:I just don't get how after 40 years this myth is still going around that the M-16 platform is unreliable.

Name another platform for which very nearly every tactical instructor recommends you pull the mag back out and make sure a round chambered.

Name another platform for which very nearly every tactical instructor recommends that you short-load the mags by at least two rounds.

what is needed to achieve the goals?

longhorn_92 wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote: I recall an episode of Future Weapons in which Mac tests some variant of an M16 platform in which the rifle fires from a closed bolt under semi-auto, and from an open bolt on full-auto. He pulled the gun out of a bucket of water and it fired without failure. He buried it in sand, pulled it out and fired it without failure. And after emptying a 30 round mag on full auto, the receiver was cool to the touch. I don't remember who the manufacturer of the rifle was, but it seemed like a good idea on the surface of it.

Is this what you're talking about?....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsgstaO18jY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

or this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjMH94PuT_I" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It is the H&K 416.

(From Wikipedia)...

"The HK416 is an assault rifle designed and manufactured by Heckler & Koch. It is an improved version of the M4 carbine with many changes, most notably a new style gas system borrowed from the HK G36. It is available as a complete firearm or as an upper receiver kit that fits on any AR-15 type lower receiver."

"In July 2007, the US Army announced a limited competition between the M4 carbine, FN SCAR, HK416, and the previously-shelved HK XM8. Ten examples of each of the four competitors were involved. Each weapon was fired for 60,000 rounds in an "extreme dust environment." The purpose of the shootoff was for assessing future needs, not to select a replacement for the M4. The XM8 scored the best, with only 127 stoppages in 60,000 total rounds, the FN SCAR Light had 226 stoppages, while the HK416 had 233 stoppages. The M4 carbine scored "significantly worse" than the rest of the field with 882 stoppages."

I believe that they are about to introduce a civilian version (H&K MR556) - not sure when they will introduce it to the public. It does look mighty fine!

What are your opinions of the H&K 416?

surprise_i'm_armed wrote:On page 1 of this thread, TAM had posted a longish piece which contained this:

U.S. special operations forces, with their own acquisition budget and the latitude to buy gear the other military branches can't, already are replacing their M4s with a new rifle.

Does anyone know what rifle this is?

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SIA

MoJo wrote:The instructors also recommend a press check for ALL pistol platforms, does that make the 1911, Glock, H&K, Baretta, SIG, M&P, HiPower, and others unreliable? Making sure the weapon picked up a round is just good sense not a flaw.

KD5NRH wrote:

MoJo wrote:The instructors also recommend a press check for ALL pistol platforms, does that make the 1911, Glock, H&K, Baretta, SIG, M&P, HiPower, and others unreliable? Making sure the weapon picked up a round is just good sense not a flaw.

I've never heard anyone recommend a press check immediately after chambering on a pistol, only as a "confidence check" to make sure that a nightstand or carry gun hasn't been unloaded since the last check.

surprise_i'm_armed wrote:On page 1 of this thread, TAM had posted a longish piece which contained this:

U.S. special operations forces, with their own acquisition budget and the latitude to buy gear the other military branches can't, already are replacing their M4s with a new rifle.

Does anyone know what rifle this is?

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During a D-Day show, probably on the History Channel they interviewed an old man who
had been a German soldier who manned a bunker overlooking Normandy Beach.

He was a machine gunner. I don't know which German MG he had. Here was this pleasant
looking grandfatherly gentleman, recalling the battle. He had 12 boxes of ammo for his MG.
Each box had 1,000 rounds. After he had killed as many Allied troops as possible with his
12,000 rounds, he escaped from the bunker and was captured by Allied troops.

He never let on what his mission had just been since he expected to have been executed
on the spot. He may have been one of the deadliest German defenders that day.

No mention was made on how long it took him to fire 12,000 rounds. No mention was made of
any failures.

SIA

longhorn_92 wrote:

surprise_i'm_armed wrote:On page 1 of this thread, TAM had posted a longish piece which contained this:

U.S. special operations forces, with their own acquisition budget and the latitude to buy gear the other military branches can't, already are replacing their M4s with a new rifle.

Does anyone know what rifle this is?

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SIA

My guess would be either the H&K 416 or the FN SCAR.... not sure?...

bdickens wrote:

Silverhawk wrote:The M-16 series has had problems with jamming since coming in service. I hated carrying it in Vietnam. Gave it up for a M-79 Thumper and a 45. I'm amazed a General is unaware for the problem. When that young female was captured and rescued she said her weapon and her Sargent's weapon jammed and could not be cleared. Overheating can be a problem with any automatic weapon. The 2nd version of the M-16 had a selector switch for single or three shot burst. They removed the option of full automatic because too many troops would not use trigetr control and either overheated the barrel or ran out of ammo in the middle of a firefight. Everyone should know that it is impossible to maintain a weapon in the middle of a firefight, no matter how clean it was when you started. I don't remember any malfuncations with the M-60 machine gun, but wasn't round one much. We NEED a service rifle that will not fail when it is most needed.

I just don't get how after 40 years this myth is still going around that the M-16 platform is unreliable.