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Re: Convince me .please!!

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:34 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
Kevinf2349 wrote:Don't Mexican carry, and try not to try and grab it if it drops. :tiphat:

"rlol" "rlol" :smilelol5: :smilelol5: :smilelol5: "rlol" "rlol" "rlol" :lol:: :lol::

Re: Convince me .please!!

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:56 pm
by mgood
Skiprr wrote:
RHENRIKSEN wrote:
ed7232004 wrote:Thanks guys but I ve heard lots thing about guns go off on their own without pulling the trigger..or accidentlly drop on the floor
99% of those reports are fabricated excuses for a negligent discharge.
+1

Or maybe even 99.999%

Firearms do not shoot themselves. You can place your sidearm on the table and have a stare-down contest with it. Your sidearm will never twitch, shift, or move in any way. Much less fire a round of its own accord.
+ another 1
I've no doubt that nearly all of these stories get started when someone has their finger on the trigger when they shouldn't. Then, after the trigger was pulled, they say "It just went off." Who wants to admit they made a really, really dumb move with a firearm?

Re: Convince me .please!!

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:05 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
mgood wrote:
Skiprr wrote:
RHENRIKSEN wrote:
ed7232004 wrote:Thanks guys but I ve heard lots thing about guns go off on their own without pulling the trigger..or accidentlly drop on the floor
99% of those reports are fabricated excuses for a negligent discharge.
+1

Or maybe even 99.999%

Firearms do not shoot themselves. You can place your sidearm on the table and have a stare-down contest with it. Your sidearm will never twitch, shift, or move in any way. Much less fire a round of its own accord.
+ another 1
I've no doubt that nearly all of these stories get started when someone has their finger on the trigger when they shouldn't. Then, after the trigger was pulled, they say "It just went off." Who wants to admit they made a really, really dumb move with a firearm?
I have always believed this to be the case in the majority of AD's.

Re: Convince me .please!!

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:53 pm
by ed7232004
Thanks for all the info guys!!it really helps me not to be scary as much as before.since I m still waiting on my chl.I will pratice that with the snap caps at home until I get comfortable with that I ll slowing adjust to a real one...hope won't shot myself lol .thanks

Re: Convince me .please!!

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:15 am
by mctowalot
Right on Ed! We will all be behind you - (in our thoughts). :thumbs2:
A wise man once said, "keep your booger hook (funny term for your finger) off the trigger until your ready to shoot!

Re: Convince me .please!!

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:32 am
by MadMonkey
I think I'll try carrying a 1911 with a snap cap for a couple of days. I think I'll be fine after that. I know I love drawing and firing with it cocked and locked, but carrying that way just felt weird.

I already have to practice racking the slide because of my current summer carry pistol (old Beretta 948). I KNOW it's not very safe to carry with a chambered round!

Now I just have to pick out a new 1911...

Re: Convince me .please!!

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:26 am
by drjoker
If you're scared, then just practice racking the slide quickly to chamber a round. Carry it WITHOUT a round in the chamber. Everything in life has risk. It is unlikely that a modern gun would go off by itself, but not impossible. I carry with a round in the chamber, but a female friend of mine carries without a round in the chamber. It all boils down to what you're comfortable with.

Re: Convince me .please!!

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:05 am
by RPB
Gives a whole new meaning to "road test"
android wrote:
glocklvr wrote:
Kythas wrote:Modern firearms will almost never discharge when dropped, and I've never heard of one "go off on their own".
:iagree:

I had a glock get knocked out of my holster 1 day while I was doing 130mph on my bike :banghead: and cartwheeled down the road for a fairly long distance and it never went off. The gun was pretty much totaled :cryin but all 14 rounds including the 1 in the chamber were still there so unless you are going to abuse yours worse than that don't worry. As several of the other guys have said just get a good holster that covers the trigger and make sure it has good retention especially if you are going to get stupid on a back road with a motorcycle and always know where your sraps are when you are putting the gun in the holster.
A friend of mine has even thrown one out of a Helipcopter with a primered case. He was with a para-military police organization and they spent a week end trying to get a Glock to AD. Couldn't do it.

Re: Convince me .please!!

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:59 am
by 03Lightningrocks
glocklvr wrote:
Kythas wrote:Modern firearms will almost never discharge when dropped, and I've never heard of one "go off on their own".
:iagree:

I had a glock get knocked out of my holster 1 day while I was doing 130mph on my bike :banghead: and cartwheeled down the road for a fairly long distance and it never went off. The gun was pretty much totaled :cryin but all 14 rounds including the 1 in the chamber were still there so unless you are going to abuse yours worse than that don't worry. As several of the other guys have said just get a good holster that covers the trigger and make sure it has good retention especially if you are going to get stupid on a back road with a motorcycle and always know where your sraps are when you are putting the gun in the holster.

WOW!!!! You cartwheeled down the road after crashing your bike at 130 MPH!!!!! AND YOU LIVED????? Believe me...the gun part of this story is not the miracle. You must have had some serious body armor on. I hope you went to church the next day and thanked your maker for your life.

Re: Convince me .please!!

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:17 pm
by dicion
03Lightningrocks wrote:
WOW!!!! You cartwheeled down the road after crashing your bike at 130 MPH!!!!! AND YOU LIVED????? Believe me...the gun part of this story is not the miracle. You must have had some serious body armor on. I hope you went to church the next day and thanked your maker for your life.
I think he meant that the Gun fell off and cartwheeled, not himself.
Cheap holster maybe?

Re: Convince me .please!!

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:39 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
dicion wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote:
WOW!!!! You cartwheeled down the road after crashing your bike at 130 MPH!!!!! AND YOU LIVED????? Believe me...the gun part of this story is not the miracle. You must have had some serious body armor on. I hope you went to church the next day and thanked your maker for your life.
I think he meant that the Gun fell off and cartwheeled, not himself.
Cheap holster maybe?
Oh...that makes sense. I was trying to get in touch with Evil Knievel about this one. I will tell him I misread the story... :smilelol5: .

Re: Convince me .please!!

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:22 pm
by austin-tatious
[quote="glocklvrjust get a good holster that covers the trigger and make sure it has good retention especially if you are going to get stupid on a back road with a motorcycle and always know where your sraps are when you are putting the gun in the holster.[/quote]

Is that supposed to be "straps" or some other word?
Thanks.

Re: Convince me .please!!

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:10 am
by Stupid
There's not much convincing per se. You need to feel comfortable about what you carry. Like many have said, modern handguns are designed to be carried with a round in the chamber, and all the big name brands, no matter how you drop them, they would not go bang without their triggers being pulled.

I purposely chose a Kimber 45 to carry because I did not feel comfortable with carrying a pistol that does not have an external safety. The main reason is that every time I re-holster the pistol, I must pay extra attention to a) ensure my finger is off the trigger, b) the trigger is not tangled in anything, c) the holster is free of any foreign object.

However, I do, from time to time (when I cannot find my Kimber 45's holster), carry my other pistols. In the winter, I carry G19 mostly, which is very similar to your XD. I think I am getting comfortable with carry those types of guns now.

Re: Convince me .please!!

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 9:36 pm
by Keith
I'll add one more that I don't think has been said if it was sorry. I would carry chambered. Get used to it and it won't be a big deal. Make sure when you do holster it that you back off the grip safety . That way if the trigger got bumped by some poly holster it would still be ok. Again this is highly unlikely. That is the only way I could see it going off by accident While bolstering or unholstering. These guns also have a drop safety so your good there also.Def no issue about going off while it's sitting in a good holster that's Hollywood stuff.

Re: Convince me .please!!

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 9:37 pm
by Keith
One more thing I carry a XD 40 and 45 chambered and ready allways