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Re: Hollywood doesn't think you should have a round chambered?
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:57 am
by O6nop
Well, I don't think any of us on this forum would watch a Hollywood movie as a training film for guns..
But has anyone watched any of the made-for-TV movies called
Stone Cold, with Tom Selleck? Theres a lot of good gun moments and realism.
One episode was where he had a wounded right shooting arm after an incident and he and his deputies were out at the range practicing and Tom had to shoot with his left . His deputy mentioned the safety was on the wrong side now and suggested an ambidextrous safety. Tom said he doesn't like them because "they break too easy... too much torque." I don't know if that's true, but that very thing happened to me. My ambi eventually broke and I replaced it with a non-ambi. Before I ever saw the show.
Re: Hollywood doesn't think you should have a round chambered?
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:03 am
by wgoforth
I guess we're off topic, but that's the way I am about "Bible movies" like The Robe, The The Ten Commandments, Greatest Story ever told, etc. I have a love/hate relationship with them. They are good moral clean movies....but always get things wrong. A fellow and I were discussing immersion vs sprinkling for baptism. He said Jesus was sprinkled...I asked how he knew....he said he saw it in the movie! (Whichever you feel is your choice, but you have to agree you can't prove by the movies!) So if people will base their theology on a movie, surely they will base their gun "knowledge" the same....thus all the kids shooting Johnny Woo style (9:00 position, ejector port up)/
Re: Hollywood doesn't think you should have a round chambered?
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:10 am
by Drewthetexan
My favorites are the indestructible cars that can plow through concrete walls and jump across buildings with nary a scratch. I hit a concrete wall once. It won.
One of my favorite scenes in "What's Up Tiger Lily?" is when one of the characters states something like he must shoot 7 guys with 3 rounds left. One of those 30 shot revolver type things. It's been a very long time since I've seen it and I can't remember the exact quote, but even as a kid I thought it was great.
Re: Hollywood doesn't think you should have a round chambered?
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:48 am
by dicion
Embalmo wrote:I'm an aviation freak and the wife hates watching those movies with me for that reason, "THAT'S NOT RIGHT!" Anyway the ones where they take off in one type and land in another, different color and such a different configuration my cat looks up and goes, "Huh?"
I was that way when "6' Under" was popular. I was constantly barking, "He's in the casket backwards," and "The left hand goes over the right," and "How come he started with a Portaboy arterial injector and now I'm looking at a Duotronic?"
Embalmo
I'm the same way with any movies dealing with anything traffic signal related.
No. they cannot go all green in every direction, especially from just tapping an enter key on a laptop in an airport terminal.
Could you make
one direction go all green doing that? sure.. but it would take more than one keytap, and more than 5 seconds.
In reality.. the way to do that would be to set them all to do it at a certain exacting time... many hours before that exact time.
Also, All Red doing the same above is possible. However, all green is not. It's hard-wired to throw it into flash operation if that happened for any reason. Any by 'hard wired', I mean, I have to go out there with side cutters in order to change it :P
Re: Hollywood doesn't think you should have a round chambered?
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:18 pm
by karder
Drewthetexan wrote:My favorites are the indestructible cars that can plow through concrete walls and jump across buildings with nary a scratch.
Dukes of Hazzard! Yeah! (the original tv series, not the bad movies) They jumped the General Lee over a lot of gorges and the suspension held up like a champ! Bo and Luke were on probation for running moonshine, so they could not have guns. They did however, have bows and arrows with dynamite strapped to them. Even as a kid that seemed odd to me. They just don't make TV like that anymore.

Re: Hollywood doesn't think you should have a round chambered?
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:31 pm
by Drewthetexan
karder wrote:Drewthetexan wrote:My favorites are the indestructible cars that can plow through concrete walls and jump across buildings with nary a scratch.
Dukes of Hazzard! Yeah! (the original tv series, not the bad movies) They jumped the General Lee over a lot of gorges and the suspension held up like a champ! Bo and Luke were on probation for running moonshine, so they could not have guns. They did however, have bows and arrows with dynamite strapped to them. Even as a kid that seemed odd to me. They just don't make TV like that anymore.

oh yeah! I remember watching that as a kid too. Hazzard is actually a family name from way back. Always wanted to name a kid that... It's usually a sticking point with girlfriends!

Re: Hollywood doesn't think you should have a round chambered?
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:33 pm
by cougartex
Re: Hollywood doesn't think you should have a round chambered?
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:52 pm
by android
Re: Hollywood doesn't think you should have a round chambered?
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:17 pm
by cdc101
I watched an episode of 'V' from few months ago and one of the main female characters (the same actress who plays Juliet from Lost...if there are any Lost fans out there) entered a house with her Sig (looked like a P-220 or 229). The hammer was back and the weapon was ready to fire. One in the house she found the house was clear and actually used the de-cocker to being back to DA and then holstered it. I thought that was pretty cool.
Good show too!
Re: Hollywood doesn't think you should have a round chambered?
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:45 pm
by Embalmo
cdc101 wrote:I watched an episode of 'V' from few months ago and one of the main female characters (the same actress who plays Juliet from Lost...if there are any Lost fans out there) entered a house with her Sig (looked like a P-220 or 229). The hammer was back and the weapon was ready to fire. One in the house she found the house was clear and actually used the de-cocker to being back to DA and then holstered it. I thought that was pretty cool.
Good show too!
That has to be a mistake or coincidence because that is exactly what one should do with that style of gun when drawing and holstering.
Embalmo
Re: Hollywood doesn't think you should have a round chambered?
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:45 pm
by bdickens
Hollywood isn't real.
Re: Hollywood doesn't think you should have a round chambered?
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:49 pm
by DONT TREAD ON ME
My wife hates watching movies/TV with me. I used to work in a theater and had to watch movies over and over and over so I learned to pick out the inconsistencies.
Example: Bad Boys 2, Will Smith jumps out of a window loses his hat and never picks it up yet when they cut to him driving the van he has his hat on again.
Dazed and Confused: During the car chase in the beginning you can see they shot the scene twice. The truck left burnout marks during both shots and they are exactly the same just one goes left and one goes right.
I always point this type of goof to her cause it bothers the heck outta me and she hates it.
But I guess we are even, she always ask me questions about the movie we are watching even though she knows I have never seen it before

Re: Hollywood doesn't think you should have a round chambered?
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:54 pm
by Dragonfighter
We were watching a Walker re-run (we have a friend Tivo'd and he periodically appears in Walker episodes). It was about cops under suspicion for excessive force and a bad guy attorney is murdered. When Walker and his cohorts are discussing the coroner's findings they said...no really they actually had this conversation.
"Don't tell me it's a 9mm."
"It's a 9mm."
"Not copper jacketed!"
"Yes, copper jacket."
"It's a cop!"

Re: Hollywood doesn't think you should have a round chambered?
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:56 pm
by Keith B
I have a friend in the stunt double business. He states that how realistic the handling of guns is depends on several things; the interest of the director to get accuracy, the knowledge of the firearms used in the film by the actors and doubles, the input from the firearms expert on the set and the willingness of the director and actors to follow the info. It is usually a fact of time in just getting the talent to semi-accurately use the weapon and get it close enough that it looks good in the shot and satisfies the director. Time is BIG money and they will overlook a lot of small details in the effort to save $$$, but try not to overlook too many things to make the movie a total farce.
Re: Hollywood doesn't think you should have a round chambered?
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:51 pm
by WildBill
Dragonfighter wrote:We were watching a Walker re-run (we have a friend Tivo'd and he periodically appears in Walker episodes). It was about cops under suspicion for excessive force and a bad guy attorney is murdered. When Walker and his cohorts are discussing the coroner's findings they said...no really they actually had this conversation.
"Don't tell me it's a 9mm."
"It's a 9mm."
"Not copper jacketed!"
"Yes, copper jacket."
"It's a cop!"

How sad. Chuck should know better.
