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ninemm wrote:Despite being surrounded by secret service and all of the advance preparations made by others, any number of people could get off a couple of shots before being subdued any time the president is outdoors. I'm amazed that it hasn't happened many times.

Especially if the shooter doesn't care if he/she survives the encounter.

C-dub wrote:Wasn't another problem that the back of his head was opened wide up from the second shot? Doesn't that indicate a shot from a different direction?

No, it's actually consistent with the effect of a shot to the back of a head. I've seen the demonstration numerous times, and it's because of soft tissue with hard covering.

SIA wrote: "It's incredible to me that a US President is killed in broad daylight, in front of
thousands of witnesses, many of whom had still cameras and movie cameras,
and all we have today is the Zapruder film, and a few stills."

Unlike today where every one has a video camera, digital camera and even cell phone photo cabability in that era it was uncommon to see someone with a movie camera. Besides being expensive, they were difficult to load and reload. An 8mm had to be exposed once and then turned over to run again to expose the opposite side. The cameras were expensive and to own a 16mm which I believe Zapruder shot with was almost unheard of. Hardly any one owned more than a Brownie or perhaps a moderate price bellows camera. Anything above that was in the hands of a professional, i.e. news . Most all had view finders that were not held to the eye. That is why there weren't as many pictures as one would think. I was part of a Boy Scout honor guard that lined the streets at Hobby Airport in Houston for JFK's visit and no one has a picture. The odd thing is when he passed me within six feet I remember thinking that he had a really big head for his body. No dis-respect intended at all! I liked the man!

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marksiwel wrote:Talking about JFK today and someone told me that they read somewhere the JFK shooting wasnt possible.

Were they saying he's still alive?

Yeah, JFK is hanging out with Elvis and Jimmy Hoffa...

I think you mean Elvis and Bubba Ho-tep.

Rex B wrote: Do you have witnesses that can verify your whereabouts on that morning??

Hmmmmm,,,actually I don't, however I'm thinking my HS transcript would strongly support my story...

I don't think the American people will ever know the whole/true story behind the JFK assasination. Our government has a way of keeping us in the dark about a lot of things. Not to get off topic but what about the cover-up of Area 51 in Roswell NM? IF it were just a weather ballon or something else so simple, why all the military and off limits stuff going on there. That Lee Harvey Oswald did this all by himself is just too simple. IMO Evidence can be twisted in favor of what someone wants the outcome to be. It all depends on who is doing the investigating and what they want the "evidence" to show. Before Oswald could have a trial and his lawyer, possibly, bring out different theories of the event, Oswald was shot and killed. If there had actually been a trial the American people may have actually found out what happened that terrible day.
Now let me adjust my tinfoil hat and reinforce the foil I have on my windows.(j/K) I can see the men in black pulling into my drive way any day now.

seniorshooteress wrote:I don't think the American people will ever know the whole/true story behind the JFK assasination. Our government has a way of keeping us in the dark about a lot of things. Not to get off topic but what about the cover-up of Area 51 in Roswell NM? IF it were just a weather ballon or something else so simple, why all the military and off limits stuff going on there. That Lee Harvey Oswald did this all by himself is just too simple. IMO Evidence can be twisted in favor of what someone wants the outcome to be. It all depends on who is doing the investigating and what they want the "evidence" to show. Before Oswald could have a trial and his lawyer, possibly, bring out different theories of the event, Oswald was shot and killed. If there had actually been a trial the American people may have actually found out what happened that terrible day.
Now let me adjust my tinfoil hat and reinforce the foil I have on my windows.(j/K) I can see the men in black pulling into my drive way any day now.

You can't get good reception unless your hat is in the shape of a pyramid!

seniorshooteress wrote:I don't think the American people will ever know the whole/true story behind the JFK assasination. Our government has a way of keeping us in the dark about a lot of things. Not to get off topic but what about the cover-up of Area 51 in Roswell NM? IF it were just a weather ballon or something else so simple, why all the military and off limits stuff going on there.

Uuuhhh, because that is where we happen to test a lot of our top secret flight technology when it first becomes available, away from prying eyes... ...like the F117 Stealth Fighter for instance?

That Lee Harvey Oswald did this all by himself is just too simple. IMO Evidence can be twisted in favor of what someone wants the outcome to be. It all depends on who is doing the investigating and what they want the "evidence" to show. Before Oswald could have a trial and his lawyer, possibly, bring out different theories of the event, Oswald was shot and killed. If there had actually been a trial the American people may have actually found out what happened that terrible day.

Read up on Occam's Razor.

Now let me adjust my tinfoil hat and reinforce the foil I have on my windows.(j/K) I can see the men in black pulling into my drive way any day now.

Naw, that's just a talent scout for American Idol.

Well if we want to talk conspiracy theories lets not leave out good ole LBJ.

Right before his assassination Kennedy began a recall of U.S. Forces from Vietnam.

LBJ supported more troop involvement in Vietnam as he wanted to fight the expansion of Soviet Union policies and communism.

National Security Action Memorandum 273 (the First NSAM on the Vietnam War under LBJ) authorized open-ended covert operations against North Vietnam. This is what authorized the Gulf of Tonkin incident and we all know LBJ used the Gulf of Tonkin Incident to obtain Congressional authorization to escalate the Vietnam War and we all know that the Gulf of Tonkin incident was a false flag operation.

On the other side of the argument is that NSAM 273 was drafted while Kennedy was alive. Apparently Kennedy never saw that draft and the draft does not match the final version, most notably in the key area of covert operations.

Hows that for a conspiracy?

Meaning no disrespect or belittling of your opinion

The Annoyed Man wrote:Uuuhhh, because that is where we happen to test a lot of our top secret flight technology when it first becomes available, away from prying eyes... ...like the F117 Stealth Fighter for instance?

but... that sounds like something coming out of the CIA/FBI playbook of "What we are going to try to convince the American public of so we don't let them know the truth cause they can't handle it" propagandy/retoric section. Again, no disrespect intended but are you former CIA/FBI-Special Forces, etc? Sure hope that ? doesn't rub anyone the wrong way. No intent to cause friction just was wondering.

Maybe I should start another thread RE: UFO's DO YOU BELIEVE?

seniorshooteress wrote:Meaning no disrespect or belittling of your opinion

The Annoyed Man wrote:Uuuhhh, because that is where we happen to test a lot of our top secret flight technology when it first becomes available, away from prying eyes... ...like the F117 Stealth Fighter for instance?

but... that sounds like something coming out of the CIA/FBI playbook of "What we are going to try to convince the American public of so we don't let them know the truth cause they can't handle it" propagandy/retoric section. Again, no disrespect intended but are you former CIA/FBI-Special Forces, etc? Sure hope that ? doesn't rub anyone the wrong way. No intent to cause friction just was wondering.

No, I'm not. I just calls 'em like I sees 'em. Apparently, we sees 'em differently is all, but I take no offense, nor am I rubbed the wrong way. I'm just by nature a little bit skeptical of anything too complicated, and I tend to go with Occam's Razor in those cases. In the case of Oswald, I back up to my own experience as a rifle guy. As I've said before, without boasting, I could have made those shots, and I'm not anything special. Any competent rifle shooter could have made those shots. It just isn't necessary to come up with a complicated conspiracy theory to explain the events of the Kennedy assassination. You could invent a complicated conspiracy to explain it if you wanted to, but that's just gilding the lily because such a theory is not necessary to explain the events. So I just don't see any evidence of a conspiracy.

That, by the way, is how most homicides are solved. The events are almost always pretty simple and straightforward.

"Occam's Razor" I had to look that up. Just in case there is anyone else out there this is what I found. "One should not increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything." I don't think of myself as a "simple" person, therefore I do look, in depth, on certain subjects. Guess the above is my lesson for the day. to TAM for the info. I learn something new here every day. Peace out.

Yall are forgetting that we didn't actually land on the moon, either.

mymojo wrote:Yall are forgetting that we didn't actually land on the moon, either.

You mean Mars.