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Carry-a-Kimber wrote:On my CDP, I can go from Condition 1 to hammer down simply by putting my thumb on the hammer and my trigger finger on the trigger BUT leave the palm of my hand off the grip safety. Kinda grabbing it like a 6 pack, if that makes sense. I don't typically do this on a loaded chamber and I wouldn't recomend doing with one, but it does work on my gun.

If you are not depressing your grip safety then its broken....Mine don't do that.

texjames wrote:

Carry-a-Kimber wrote:On my CDP, I can go from Condition 1 to hammer down simply by putting my thumb on the hammer and my trigger finger on the trigger BUT leave the palm of my hand off the grip safety. Kinda grabbing it like a 6 pack, if that makes sense. I don't typically do this on a loaded chamber and I wouldn't recomend doing with one, but it does work on my gun.

If you are not depressing your grip safety then its broken....Mine don't do that.

If your 1911 can do that, then it is not safe. Get that fixed ASAP!

AndyC wrote:Another possibility: when he's pushing on the hammer, he's pushing it all the way back so that the hammer is making contact with the top of the grip-safety - and depressing the grip-safety that way.

You're right, my thumb is pressing the beavertail without my palm touching the grip safety.

Thanks everyone. I now fully understand the process. I appreciate everybody helping me learn.

Just to chime in with my two cents worth...

The way I was taught, is that a loaded gun is, and should be, DANGEROUS! Your primary safety device is always located between your ears, and if you follow Jeff Cooper's four rules of firearms, then you know to always keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire. Most modern firearms are perfectly safe to carry as long as you follow the rules and keep the "booger-hook" off the trigger, including cocked-and-locked 1911s and Glocks both.

I have a Kimber Eclipse Pro II 1911, and although I had a tiny bit of trepidation carrying in Condition One ("cocked-and-locked") in the beginning, I have now gotten over my qualms completely. It's probably my #1 carry weapon, and I have never had an issue with an accidental discharge or even a case where I've discovered the thumb safety has "accidentally" been disengaged.

It's already been stated the best way to drop the hammer on a 1911: drop the magazine, carefully release the thumb safety making sure your finger is off the trigger, rack the slide to eject the round in the chamber, and then I usually just dry-fire it at the floor once I know it's empty. However I seldom unload it, and whenever I do I make sure I'm paying extra-close attention to what I'm doing because the 1911 has a much crisper and lighter trigger than some of my DAO pistols, and the last thing I want to do is put a bullet through the wall by being careless or sloppy.

As a side-note...I think one of the reasons we hear about "Glock Leg" and not "1911 Leg" is that the two pistols appeal to different tastes. Plaxico Burress gave himself a case of Glock Leg as well as damaging his NFL football career and sending himself to jail last November. Unfortunately a lot of "urban culture" has romanticized the Glock as the weapon-of-choice for wanna-be gangstas, and those guys aren't the type to bother learning firearm safety or how to really shoot. If Plaxico had bothered to put his Glock into a quality IWB holster, and bothered to try to obtain a (admittedly hard-to-get) New York CCW license, he probably wouldn't have shot himself or wound up in jail with his NFL career temporarily derailed. I wouldn't be surprised if he had these sights installed: http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/glock-gag.html

MojoTexas

I was looking at another forum today and saw that picture and almost fell off my chair laughing!

Quahog wrote:I was looking at another forum today and saw that picture and almost fell off my chair laughing!

What's sad is that I was in a local gun store a few months ago, and there were some "gangsta wannabe" teenagers in there posing with one of the AR-15 rifles and taking pictures of each other with their cell phones. They weren't old enough to handle the Glocks (yes, they asked while I was there) or they would've probably been demonstrating the correct gangsta' sideways stance.

I have definitely got to work on that "gangsta grip"... you never know when it might come in handy.

anytime. I forgot about the LDA from Para. I think my brain would implode if I opened one up after seeing JMB internals for so long.