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C-dub wrote: Average reaction time:
Black Armed:573.56ms
White Armed:609.6ms

RACIST!!!!! You're sooo much quicker to shoot a Black Man! Burn him! BURN the racist!

RHENRIKSEN wrote:

C-dub wrote: Average reaction time:
Black Armed:573.56ms
White Armed:609.6ms

RACIST!!!!! You're sooo much quicker to shoot a Black Man! Burn him! BURN the racist!

Interestingly, statistics like those, from that very game, are being used to make the argument that people have an "implicit racial bias" against blacks in the Police on Police Shootings study commissioned by Governor Patterson of New York. I tend to think there are other factors involved that make it more difficult to define the precise cause. For example, a black or dark gun in the hand of a white person is more easily distinguishable than the same gun in a black person's hand. The blacker the person, the more the gun "dissolves" into the background. And a shiny gun is more easily distinguished in a black hand than a white one. So, while there may be a racial component to the variations in reaction time, there may also not be. Furthermore, a black wallet in a black hand might be harder to distinguish than a silver cell phone in a black hand, and so forth.

So before these "scientists" pick up on "implicit racial bias", they might want to do a bit more in depth research.

Mind you, I'm not saying there is no racial prejudice in America. There most certainly is. I've experienced it myself, when in the company of black friends and when my daughter was dating a black man. I just think that, like Maya Angelou's revelation in I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings, what one takes as racial prejudice could just be a rude person.

I also question whether 37ms is a statistically significant different in reaction time. That's about 5% faster in the case that you quote, but we're still talking milliseconds. I think you'd have to take into account the factors I've cited to really determine if the difference can't be accounted for by the ease or lack of ease with which the item in the hand can be identified.

baldeagle wrote:Average reaction time:
Black Armed:573.56ms
White Armed:609.6ms

Interestingly, statistics like those, from that very game, are being used to make the argument that people have an "implicit racial bias" against blacks in the Police on Police Shootings study commissioned by Governor Patterson of New York.

So before these "scientists" pick up on "implicit racial bias", they might want to do a bit more in depth research.

I also question whether 37ms is a statistically significant different in reaction time. That's about 5% faster in the case that you quote, but we're still talking milliseconds.

A real scientist would not make any conclusions. The results posted are incomplete data, not "statistics." There is simply not enough data to make any statistically valid conclusion.

WildBill wrote:

baldeagle wrote:Average reaction time:
Black Armed:573.56ms
White Armed:609.6ms

Interestingly, statistics like those, from that very game, are being used to make the argument that people have an "implicit racial bias" against blacks in the Police on Police Shootings study commissioned by Governor Patterson of New York.

So before these "scientists" pick up on "implicit racial bias", they might want to do a bit more in depth research.

I also question whether 37ms is a statistically significant different in reaction time. That's about 5% faster in the case that you quote, but we're still talking milliseconds.

A real scientist would not make any conclusions. The results posted are incomplete data, not "statistics." There is simply not enough data to make any statistically valid conclusion.

Too many pseudo-scientists and social scientists who get their exercise from jumping to conclusions that are not supported by data.

Please, get back on topic. Thank you

TXlaw1 wrote:

WildBill wrote:

baldeagle wrote:

WildBill wrote:Where is the FBI when you need them?

Investigating Arizona.

Sorry, I forgot.

Probably not a Federal criminal case so no FBI jurisdiction - unless the Justice Department would deem it a violation of civil rights (but the dude was not a minority) or he files a case in Federal Court for such a violation. Even then it would be a civil case so I don't think the FBI would get involved.

Actually it is a criminal case. Violation of civil rights is a criminal charge. There could also be so many state charges that the deputies and the sheriff and the DA could all spend enough time in the pen to be drawing social security when they get out. Which is where the case should really go.