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Re: Bill White and the Democrats

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:34 am
by JonMcClellan
Ashlar wrote:The NRA-PVF rates White as a 'B'. In any other state, I'd say he's an 'A'.

He had the good sense to run, not walk, away from Bloomberg's MAIG group.

Overall? Meh.
But he also had the bad sense to join and be an active member of that group for years. He only left the group after getting heat from an opponent in a Democratic primary.

Re: Bill White and the Democrats

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:47 am
by JonMcClellan
Bill White may try to talk like he supports the second amendment, but can he walk the walk too?

Lets compare and contrast some facts.

Bill White
- Does not have a CHL
- Does not have a Texas Hunting License
- Does not even know what types of guns he owns (Video available online at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOq1ehgK0NA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)
- Was an active member of "Mayors Against Illegal Guns"

Rick Perry
- Has an active CHL, is known to carry a Ruger .380 w Crimson Trace laser sights
- Has a Texas Hunting License and uses it (Video of Perry shooting at LaRue Tactical and dove hunting pictures, http://therightsideofaustin.wordpress.c ... -the-year/)
- In addition to the long list of reasons why he got the NRA and TSRA endorsements. (http://therightsideofaustin.wordpress.c ... ick-perry/)

Re: Bill White and the Democrats

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:02 am
by atticus
There are very few "perfect" candidates out there. And very often we end up eating our own because of some fault(s) in our candidate. It's pretty clear to me that White would carry Obama's water here in Texas. That's enough reason alone to avoid White. Like the plague. Perry has his own warts and whiskers, but he's a damn sight better than ANY democrat in today's political climate. The second amendment is indeed a good litmus test today. :txflag:

Re: Bill White and the Democrats

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:01 pm
by sjfcontrol
atticus wrote:The second amendment is indeed a good litmus test today. :txflag:
Excuse me? Since when was a "litmus test" needed in any race between a democrat and an republican? :nono:

Re: Bill White and the Democrats

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:43 pm
by terryg
As I have said before, I will vote for Perry because their is not other real choice. I have, however, a very hard time supporting him in the way one does when they genuinely believe in the character of a candidate. For example, I would have a very hard time putting a 'Vote for Perry' sign in my yard.

Unless someone can point me to a sign that says something like:

Vote For Perry
Yeah, I hate him too!
He's a real snake.
But do you really want Bill White for Governor?

You think I can find a sign like that somewhere? "rlol"

Re: Bill White and the Democrats

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:52 pm
by sjfcontrol
terryg wrote:As I have said before, I will vote for Perry because their is not other real choice. I have, however, a very hard time supporting him in the way one does when they genuinely believe in the character of a candidate. For example, I would have a very hard time putting a 'Vote for Perry' sign in my yard.

Unless someone can point me to a sign that says something like:

Vote For Perry
Yeah, I hate him too!
He's a real snake.
But do you really want Bill White for Governor?

You think I can find a sign like that somewhere? "rlol"
A little poster board, a little paint.... :rolll

Re: Bill White and the Democrats

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:11 pm
by Texas Dan Mosby
"Sanctuary City"
+
Mayors group against handguns
= My vote........



IF we are voting to tar and feather the dip and run him out of town on a rail.

Re: Bill White and the Democrats

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:36 pm
by atticus
Sorry, sjfcontrol, but I don't understand your response. The litmus test referred to in my post is that of the second amendment (see above). I use the term "litmus test" in the same sense Charles Cotton has used it on this board. I did not say party affiliation is the litmus test, but rather the second amendment. What are you getting at?

Re: Bill White and the Democrats

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:43 pm
by puma guy
terryg wrote:As I have said before, I will vote for Perry because their is not other real choice. I have, however, a very hard time supporting him in the way one does when they genuinely believe in the character of a candidate. For example, I would have a very hard time putting a 'Vote for Perry' sign in my yard.

Unless someone can point me to a sign that says something like:

Vote For Perry
Yeah, I hate him too!
He's a real snake.
But do you really want Bill White for Governor?

You think I can find a sign like that somewhere? "rlol"
I may paint my own...... on the backside of a TxDOT Trans-Texas Corridor sign.

Re: Bill White and the Democrats

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:45 pm
by sjfcontrol
I'm getting at the fact that I don't need a litmus test to choose between just about any democrat, and any republican. If we were talking primaries or some non-party race, then maybe.

Re: Bill White and the Democrats

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:50 pm
by atticus
I get it now, and I tend to agree. Texas today is not what it was when conservative Democrats actually were conservative (several decades ago). But this discussion brings up the larger picture, i.e. that the republican party, as a whole, tends to greater fidelity to personal freedom and limited govenment than do the democrats. Lots of evidence for that.

Re: Bill White and the Democrats

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:02 pm
by sjfcontrol
Yes, not to say that there aren't a wide variety of republicans, from "rino" to "reagan", if you will. But, even given a choice between a rino and a democrat, the rino still wins.

Re: Bill White and the Democrats

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:01 am
by TexasGal
I'm voting for Perry (corrected typo) not because I love Perry, but because he is preferable as someone else stated.
As others have pointed out;
1. He's a democrat whom I do not believe would actually do anything about the border problem (sanctuary city).
2. He would suck up to Obama's agenda. He didn't meet with him when he came to Texas solely as a tactic to avoid looking like he supports him before the election.
3. He belonged to Bloombergs's group and did indeed support their agenda for years. He dropped out only to increase his electability. I highly doubt his heart has changed.
4. He marched in the recent Dallas Gay Pride Parade. I personally do not want the Gay Right's agenda of same sex marriage, etc to take any further foothold here in Texas. I'm sick of it being shoved down our throats from every angle already.

Re: Bill White and the Democrats

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:11 am
by Purplehood
TexasGal wrote:I'm voting for White not because I love Perry, but because he is preferable as someone else stated.
As others have pointed out;
1. He's a democrat whom I do not believe would actually do anything about the border problem (sanctuary city).
2. He would suck up to Obama's agenda. He didn't meet with him when he came to Texas solely as a tactic to avoid looking like he supports him before the election.
3. He belonged to Bloombergs's group and did indeed support their agenda for years. He dropped out only to increase his electability. I highly doubt his heart has changed.
4. He marched in the recent Dallas Gay Pride Parade. I personally do not want the Gay Right's agenda of same sex marriage, etc to take any further foothold here in Texas. I'm sick of it being shoved down our throats from every angle already.
I just read your post as why you shouldn't vote for White. But the first sentence says that you are. Is that a typo?

Re: Bill White and the Democrats

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:38 am
by TexasGal
Oops :oops:
Corrected. That's what happens when I get too riled up.