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AndyC wrote:From that article:

"This is an unprecedented attempt to arm teenagers ... even though most states currently restrict them from carrying a concealed weapon," said Daniel Vice , senior attorney for the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence . "Teen gang members could buy guns if this law is changed."

Um. No. They can't. They really can't

Andy, don't confuse a reporter with facts.

Pawpaw wrote:

AndyC wrote:From that article:

"This is an unprecedented attempt to arm teenagers ... even though most states currently restrict them from carrying a concealed weapon," said Daniel Vice , senior attorney for the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence . "Teen gang members could buy guns if this law is changed."

Um. No. They can't. They really can't

Andy, don't confuse a reporter with facts.

Or a politician, or an anti-gun zealot!

"This is an unprecedented attempt to arm teenagers ... even though most states currently restrict them from carrying a concealed weapon," said Daniel Vice , senior attorney for the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence . "Teen gang members could buy guns if this law is changed."

Actually they already can buy guns even with the law in place, they do so the exact same way that every other prohibited persons buys theirs .... illegally.

AndyC wrote:

Pawpaw wrote:Andy, don't confuse a reporter with facts.

You know, I have zero problem with anyone taking an opposing viewpoint - but adults should be well beyond having to flat-out lie in order to win a debate, and that sort of deception should be spot-lit and shown for the craven untruth that it is.

chartreuse wrote:

AndyC wrote:

Pawpaw wrote:Andy, don't confuse a reporter with facts.

You know, I have zero problem with anyone taking an opposing viewpoint - but adults should be well beyond having to flat-out lie in order to win a debate, and that sort of deception should be spot-lit and shown for the craven untruth that it is.

G.A. Heath wrote:

"This is an unprecedented attempt to arm teenagers ... even though most states currently restrict them from carrying a concealed weapon," said Daniel Vice , senior attorney for the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence . "Teen gang members could buy guns if this law is changed."

Actually they already can buy guns even with the law in place, they do so the exact same way that every other prohibited persons buys theirs .... illegally.

Or they could just continue stealing them.

AndyC wrote:

austinrealtor wrote:Austin Statesman ran a front-page news story today about the 18-20 year old handgun buying/carrying court cases:

http://www.statesman.com/news/texas-pol ... 73668.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

From that article:

"This is an unprecedented attempt to arm teenagers ... even though most states currently restrict them from carrying a concealed weapon," said Daniel Vice , senior attorney for the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence . "Teen gang members could buy guns if this law is changed."

Um. No. They can't. They really can't

Seems to me "they" said the same sort of thing about allowing teenagers to vote back in the 60s.

jimlongley wrote:Seems to me "they" said the same sort of thing about allowing teenagers to vote back in the 60s.

An excellent point, Jim.

It's worth remembering that, at some point in history, "they" have said similar things about women, people of colour and most everybody else who wasn't part of their clique. Oddly enough, despite all the battles that "they" have lost over the years, the world has yet to come to an end.

Funny thing, "they" don't have a problem forcing teenagers to register for the draft or letting them go to war or drive cars or work dangerous jobs.

Hoi Polloi wrote:How many different ages of majority do we have in our country?

IIRC, these are just a few...
Young teens can be certified and tried as adults and not as juveniles.
16 to drive unaccompanied
17 to join the military
18 to vote and be tried as an adult
21 to drink alcohol
24 to be considered independent of one's parents for federal college grants and loans

As a teacher... if a child is 10 years + and gets in a fight a school they can be legally charged with assault in J. Court. We had a teacher at our campus press charges on a 12 year old...

This story made the Houston news last night. It's interesting to me how the media, when talking about concealed carry of a handgun, they always show video or pictures of AK's and AR's...as if to imply that there will be teens walking around with an AR15 tucked into an IWB holster. This report is no different!

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/po ... gun-rights

pdubyoo wrote:This story made the Houston news last night. It's interesting to me how the media, when talking about concealed carry of a handgun, they always show video or pictures of AK's and AR's...as if to imply that there will be teens walking around with an AR15 tucked into an IWB holster. This report is no different!

Adults aged 18-20 can already buy and carry (OC or CC) rifles such as AR and AK style semiautos. So much for FOX being fair or balanced.

Hoi Polloi wrote:How many different ages of majority do we have in our country?

IIRC, these are just a few...
Young teens can be certified and tried as adults and not as juveniles.
16 to drive unaccompanied
17 to join the military
18 to vote and be tried as an adult
21 to drink alcohol
24 to be considered independent of one's parents for federal college grants and loans

25 to be elected to the House of Representatives
30 to be elected to the Senate
35 to be President, which leads to one of my biggest pet peeves with the Presidential order of succession; if the Speaker of the House can be as young as 25 and the President Pro Tempore of the Senate can be 30, it can then skip directly from the VP to the cabinet members, who, being appointed rather than elected, have, IMO, no business being in the succession at all.

I think that puts me near my comma quota for the day.