The focal point for Texas firearms information and discussions
https://mail.texaschlforum.com/
What is a "slide pin"?alvins wrote:is the slide pin going to fall out when you shoot it once like my cousins p238 hehe
Not impressed with Red's prices either. Red himself, comes off as quite arrogant when you question his prices, which is usually considerably higher than other places in central TX.austinrealtor wrote:Fondled one of these at Red's range in Pflugerville this week. Mark me as highly UNIMPRESSED
Red's usual over-inflated price was nearly $700
I browse at reds...I shoot at reds... however I buy from places that have quality customer service...reds only gets my range fee.rubiconjp wrote:Not impressed with Red's prices either. Red himself, comes off as quite arrogant when you question his prices, which is usually considerably higher than other places in central TX.austinrealtor wrote:Fondled one of these at Red's range in Pflugerville this week. Mark me as highly UNIMPRESSED
Red's usual over-inflated price was nearly $700
Sorry to rehash this old thread, but this statement seems to ring true. I sent back my Sig P290 twice...first time due to manufacturing defect (trigger bar out of spec) on my early model...2nd time due to failure to extract and misfires. Sig also upgraded my trigger group...my trigger is now smoother than when i first bought it!! It works beautifully now. Unfortunately, i have heard of quality control issues on late model Sigs (and other brands)...that usually corrects itself with a trip back to the manufacturer.Rex B wrote:I always figured the high price of the Kahrs and a few others were to cover warranty expenses, because they just KNOW the warranty issues will be greater in a pocket nine.
I got mine from Gander Mountain for $599..."First Edition" with no laser. It was the best price i can find on it at the time. Actually, if you read the hands-on review from professionals, then you will see that P290 got glowing reviews...but, like i wrote, i did not get such good experience initially...but, now, i love my little monster! I plan to keep it for a long long time. With the 8-rd magazine, i am as comfortable with it as my P239. My brother has the LCP...and it gave him issues and he hated the trigger. I am not sure if he still has it.Thomas wrote:After a lot of research, my first handgun was a Sig P226. My second handgun (CCW) was also a Sig. I was excited when I heard about the P290, but they raised the MSRP which disappointed me, and then some hands-on reviews disappointed me. I was hesitant about not getting a Sig for my pocket carry, but then I got the Ruger LCP. I am very happy with it, and so is my wallet.
Someone else just wrote that you shouldn't buy "new guns immediately following their release" and after following the Sig P290, I tend to agree. I'll let someone else with more money to burn try it out first.
If you are satisfied with a .380 for personal defense, then you would be very happy with a Sig p238. I had the LCP, TCP and S&W Bodyguard, but the Sig 238 was the smoothest, most accurate pocket gun I have had. My wife loves hers as she can rack it very easily. They had some issues on the early model (recoil spring and magazines which are now different) but they are great now. Being a little heavier not having polymer frame, the perceived recoil is less than the LCP types.Thomas wrote:After a lot of research, my first handgun was a Sig P226. My second handgun (CCW) was also a Sig. I was excited when I heard about the P290, but they raised the MSRP which disappointed me, and then some hands-on reviews disappointed me. I was hesitant about not getting a Sig for my pocket carry, but then I got the Ruger LCP. I am very happy with it, and so is my wallet.
Someone else just wrote that you shouldn't buy "new guns immediately following their release" and after following the Sig P290, I tend to agree. I'll let someone else with more money to burn try it out first.
I do find it difficult to rack the LCP when my hands are perspiring, so I keep one in the chamber. I know someone with a Sig P238 which I've cleaned, fired, and carried, and I'm not that fond of it. Someone who is a better shot than me, shot both the LCP and P238 back to back, and concluded that the LCP is more accurate. Thank you for the suggestion though. As much as I wanted to make my third handgun also a Sig, the Cons outweighed the Pros (including the price, not much to spend right now).wgoforth wrote:If you are satisfied with a .380 for personal defense, then you would be very happy with a Sig p238. I had the LCP, TCP and S&W Bodyguard, but the Sig 238 was the smoothest, most accurate pocket gun I have had. My wife loves hers as she can rack it very easily. They had some issues on the early model (recoil spring and magazines which are now different) but they are great now. Being a little heavier not having polymer frame, the perceived recoil is less than the LCP types.Thomas wrote:After a lot of research, my first handgun was a Sig P226. My second handgun (CCW) was also a Sig. I was excited when I heard about the P290, but they raised the MSRP which disappointed me, and then some hands-on reviews disappointed me. I was hesitant about not getting a Sig for my pocket carry, but then I got the Ruger LCP. I am very happy with it, and so is my wallet.
Someone else just wrote that you shouldn't buy "new guns immediately following their release" and after following the Sig P290, I tend to agree. I'll let someone else with more money to burn try it out first.
Hmm, thats interesting... most reviews would say otherwise, but if it is for you, go for it! I liked my LCP, but beyond 7 yards wasn't very accurate. I can hit bullseyes at 15 yards with the P238. The more than vestigal sites could be a part. The 238's start at around $450. The LCP not locking open on last round would now be a deal breaker for me.Thomas wrote:I do find it difficult to rack the LCP when my hands are perspiring, so I keep one in the chamber. I know someone with a Sig P238 which I've cleaned, fired, and carried, and I'm not that fond of it. Someone who is a better shot than me, shot both the LCP and P238 back to back, and concluded that the LCP is more accurate. Thank you for the suggestion though. As much as I wanted to make my third handgun also a Sig, the Cons outweighed the Pros (including the price, not much to spend right now).wgoforth wrote:If you are satisfied with a .380 for personal defense, then you would be very happy with a Sig p238. I had the LCP, TCP and S&W Bodyguard, but the Sig 238 was the smoothest, most accurate pocket gun I have had. My wife loves hers as she can rack it very easily. They had some issues on the early model (recoil spring and magazines which are now different) but they are great now. Being a little heavier not having polymer frame, the perceived recoil is less than the LCP types.Thomas wrote:After a lot of research, my first handgun was a Sig P226. My second handgun (CCW) was also a Sig. I was excited when I heard about the P290, but they raised the MSRP which disappointed me, and then some hands-on reviews disappointed me. I was hesitant about not getting a Sig for my pocket carry, but then I got the Ruger LCP. I am very happy with it, and so is my wallet.
Someone else just wrote that you shouldn't buy "new guns immediately following their release" and after following the Sig P290, I tend to agree. I'll let someone else with more money to burn try it out first.
Yeah, that might be a problem if one needed to reload very quickly. The only solution would be to count how many times the gun has been fired and replace the magazine when the last round is in the chamber. At least with 6+1, it shouldn't be that easy to lose count, but I can understand in a high-stress situation, counting the bullets may be the last thing on one's mind. For an automatic slide stop, the gun would have to have been made one or two millimeters wider. I probably would have still bought the gun if it was that much wider, but Ruger decided for one reason or another not to make it so. I don't know if I'll buy an extra magazine or two anytime soon, but hopefully I'll never need more than one.wgoforth wrote:The LCP not locking open on last round would now be a deal breaker for me.
Doesn't have to be wider...the Taurus TCP has slide lock open on last round as does the S&W Bodyguard. If they are wider, I can't tell by the naked eye. BTW, You always need a spare mag. A goodly percent of the time, gun failure is really mag failure. Clint Smith at Thunder Ranch always says "One is none and two is one." Not to mention, with that small a capacity, I would suggest carrying a spare on your person...not only for additional ammo but in case of mag failure. I carry a spare mag though the P238 holds 8 rounds (extended mag). But I would also carry a spare mag even were I carrying a full sized 18 round gun.Thomas wrote:Yeah, that might be a problem if one needed to reload very quickly. The only solution would be to count how many times the gun has been fired and replace the magazine when the last round is in the chamber. At least with 6+1, it shouldn't be that easy to lose count, but I can understand in a high-stress situation, counting the bullets may be the last thing on one's mind. For an automatic slide stop, the gun would have to have been made one or two millimeters wider. I probably would have still bought the gun if it was that much wider, but Ruger decided for one reason or another not to make it so. I don't know if I'll buy an extra magazine or two anytime soon, but hopefully I'll never need more than one.wgoforth wrote:The LCP not locking open on last round would now be a deal breaker for me.