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Re: Motorist Protection Act..Best kept secret in Texas

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:02 pm
by ScottDLS
Outbreaker wrote:
Purplehood wrote:This article implies that the MPA applies when travelling.
Law was refined in 2008 to define traveling as moving from one location to another reguardless of distance.

This along with some other provisions were added in 2008 by the original sponsor after a large supporter of his was procecuted by an over zealos DA that defined traveling as requiring an overnight stay.
The Texas Legislature is only in session in odd years unless a special session is called. The definition of traveling was refined in 2005 (I believe) not 2007. Then in 2007 the redefinition of traveling was scrapped AND...The MPA was passed which (essentially) eliminated the prohibition on carrying in your car. So now whether you are traveling or not, it is (generally) legal to carry concealed in your car.
PC §46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS. (a) A person commits
an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries
on or about his or her person a handgun, illegal knife, or club if the
person is not:
(1) on the person's own premises or premises under the person's
control; or
(2) inside of or directly en route to a motor vehicle that is owned
by the person or under the person's control.

PC §46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS. (a) A person commits
an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries
on or about his or her person a handgun, illegal knife, or club if the
person is not:
(1) on the person's own premises or premises under the person's
control; or
(2) inside of or directly en route to a motor vehicle that is owned
by the person or under the person's control.
(a-1) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly,
or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun in a
motor vehicle that is owned by the person or under the person's
control at any time in which:
(1) the handgun is in plain view; or
(2) the person is:
(A) engaged in criminal activity, other than a Class C misdemeanor
that is a violation of a law or ordinance regulating traffic;
(B) prohibited by law from possessing a firearm; or
(C) a member of a criminal street gang, as defined by Section
71.01.
...

Re: Motorist Protection Act..Best kept secret in Texas

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:37 pm
by SpringerFan
jamisjockey wrote:
SpringerFan wrote:So my wife carrying a LCP that is in my name when she travels in her car is OK then? She does not have her CHL yet.

How is the LCP in your name?

GUNS ARE NOT REGISTERED IN TEXAS.

Yes, you pass an NICS check if you purchase it from a dealer. But that is not the same as registration.

Bought by me for her. I said nothing about registration.

Re: Motorist Protection Act..Best kept secret in Texas

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:59 pm
by jimlongley
terryg wrote:
jimlongley wrote:And the unlimited pixel resolution they get with parking lot security cameras.
Hmm Jim. I don't know what shows your watching. But the security video on the shows I watch is always too grainy to see who the suspect is. That's why they send the video the nerdy guys in the backroom who, using alien technology, somehow manage to sharpen the image by adding information that could not possibly have been captured by the camera. ;-)
My point exactly.

And I try to avoid watching them, but my wife seems to thrive on them, even when I sit there and criticize all that kind of stuff.

Re: Motorist Protection Act..Best kept secret in Texas

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 5:05 pm
by jimlongley
Dave2 wrote:
terryg wrote:
jimlongley wrote:And the unlimited pixel resolution they get with parking lot security cameras.
Hmm Jim. I don't know what shows your watching. But the security video on the shows I watch is always too grainy to see who the suspect is. That's why they send the video the nerdy guys in the backroom who, using alien technology, somehow manage to sharpen the image by adding information that could not possibly have been captured by the camera. ;-)
They actually can do that. Perhaps not to the degree that TV does, but the technology is real.

They can see around corners, too.
But even SR and other enhancement techniques cannot supply or interpolate information that is not there.

Re: Motorist Protection Act..Best kept secret in Texas

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:57 pm
by Salty1
I believe what is meant is that your the "legal" owner of the gun.... if they run the number and the gun is found to be stolen are you the legal owner? I imagine you could be charged with receiving stolen property and illegally carrying a handgun.... just a thought....

Re: Motorist Protection Act..Best kept secret in Texas

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:09 pm
by WildBill
MoJo wrote:Well if your name is GUNther then "GUN" is in your name.
Or your name is Smith or Wesson. ;-)

Re: Motorist Protection Act..Best kept secret in Texas

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:13 pm
by mikeintexas
jimlongley wrote:
Dave2 wrote:
terryg wrote:
jimlongley wrote:And the unlimited pixel resolution they get with parking lot security cameras.
Hmm Jim. I don't know what shows your watching. But the security video on the shows I watch is always too grainy to see who the suspect is. That's why they send the video the nerdy guys in the backroom who, using alien technology, somehow manage to sharpen the image by adding information that could not possibly have been captured by the camera. ;-)
They actually can do that. Perhaps not to the degree that TV does, but the technology is real.

They can see around corners, too.
But even SR and other enhancement techniques cannot supply or interpolate information that is not there.
My Dad always told me that if it was on TV, it had to be true. Are you telling me Dad is wrong?? "rlol"

Re: Motorist Protection Act..Best kept secret in Texas

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:20 pm
by WildBill
mikeintexas wrote:
jimlongley wrote:
Dave2 wrote:
terryg wrote:
jimlongley wrote:And the unlimited pixel resolution they get with parking lot security cameras.
Hmm Jim. I don't know what shows your watching. But the security video on the shows I watch is always too grainy to see who the suspect is. That's why they send the video the nerdy guys in the backroom who, using alien technology, somehow manage to sharpen the image by adding information that could not possibly have been captured by the camera. ;-)
They actually can do that. Perhaps not to the degree that TV does, but the technology is real.

They can see around corners, too.
But even SR and other enhancement techniques cannot supply or interpolate information that is not there.
My Dad always told me that if it was on TV, it had to be true. Are you telling me Dad is wrong?? "rlol"
I would have to preface my comments with "I am not a Psychiatrist". :mrgreen:

Re: Motorist Protection Act..Best kept secret in Texas

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:58 pm
by Embalmo
I'm sure a gun in the truck is saf(er), but I feel the least vulnerable when I'm inside my vehicle. It's when I get out that I get scared. That's why I wish I could check my gun in gun free zones.

Embalmo

Re: Motorist Protection Act..Best kept secret in Texas

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:20 am
by srothstein
terryg wrote:
jimlongley wrote:And the unlimited pixel resolution they get with parking lot security cameras.
Hmm Jim. I don't know what shows your watching. But the security video on the shows I watch is always too grainy to see who the suspect is. That's why they send the video the nerdy guys in the backroom who, using alien technology, somehow manage to sharpen the image by adding information that could not possibly have been captured by the camera. ;-)
Have you ever noticed that the image of the bad guy is too fuzzy to see more than it was a guy, but the video from the same camera clearly shows the license plate well enough to read the expiration sticker in the corner (some states still use them)?

Re: Motorist Protection Act..Best kept secret in Texas

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:35 am
by KD5NRH
srothstein wrote:Have you ever noticed that the image of the bad guy is too fuzzy to see more than it was a guy, but the video from the same camera clearly shows the license plate well enough to read the expiration sticker in the corner (some states still use them)?
People move a lot, and in irregular ways. Cars either sit still or move in predictable patterns, so frame stacking is much easier to use on them, and with enough frames, can get some really impressive detail.

Re: Motorist Protection Act..Best kept secret in Texas

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:45 am
by txcshooter
:headscratch If there is no "registration", then why do they write down the serial number onto the application for the gov't. backgroundcheck?

It's like when they said the airport scanners could not record any images, yet the media (foxnews) was able to show us they did. And apparently, they've recorded over 10,000 so far.

Re: Motorist Protection Act..Best kept secret in Texas

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:13 pm
by jamisjockey
txcshooter wrote::headscratch If there is no "registration", then why do they write down the serial number onto the application for the gov't. backgroundcheck?

It's like when they said the airport scanners could not record any images, yet the media (foxnews) was able to show us they did. And apparently, they've recorded over 10,000 so far.
It is a record of sale. There is nothing stopping you from buying or selling a firearm, loaning it, or gifting it. Okay, well, there are a few interstate transfer laws, but ignore that for a moment.
There might be a record the Government can trace that you purchased the firearm.
But lets say you get pulled over. Cop asks the magic question, do you have any guns? Here in Texas, he isnt' going to ask if its registered. Because there is no REGISTRATION of firearms in Texas (and most of the U.S. for that matter).
What you do with the gun after you purchase it from an FFL is your own business.

Re: Motorist Protection Act..Best kept secret in Texas

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:37 pm
by Bullwhip
Purplehood wrote:This article implies that the MPA applies when travelling.
If your travelling nothing in PC 46.02 applies.

Re: Motorist Protection Act..Best kept secret in Texas

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:43 pm
by rm9792
SpringerFan wrote:
jamisjockey wrote:
SpringerFan wrote:So my wife carrying a LCP that is in my name when she travels in her car is OK then? She does not have her CHL yet.
How is the LCP in your name?
GUNS ARE NOT REGISTERED IN TEXAS.
Yes, you pass an NICS check if you purchase it from a dealer. But that is not the same as registration.

Bought by me for her. I said nothing about registration.
But you implied it with "that is in my name ". The way it reads to some is that you think it is in fact registered in your name.