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Re: Campus Carry Hearing Video Link

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:36 pm
by RPB
Thomas wrote:It sounded like that the committee members did as best as they could to politely blow John Woods off. I was also surprised at his blatant lie that all survivors and family of victims are all on his side. He added "to his knowledge" when saying that, I think so that if anyone ever called him on that lie, he could claim he didn't know.
right "qualified his statement so it wasn't perjury, however he full well knows better, so it actually would be a "lie" IMHO
Advocates waiting 4 years to decide?

Re: Campus Carry Hearing Video Link

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:40 pm
by warhorse10_9
Another suicide testimony, I thought they had asked not repeat testimony.
Anyways, their argument is only guns are more accessible, what are suicidal people going to do? Go frisk everyone they see to get a hold of a CHL's gun? :banghead: :banghead:

Re: Campus Carry Hearing Video Link

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:42 pm
by RPB
4:38 Merilee Keller Texas suicide prevention council and herself, against everything
age 15-24 died by suicide ... stats ... access to guns ... increases suicide risk, not likely to practice or deescalate situations she took a chl class
hopes de-escalation is added to course
supports 2 amendment but not here
doesn't think chl course is good enough and they don't practice enough
Cell phones are better protection :smilelol5:
student shooting others accidentally = high risk
if it passes go local control limit to staff n professors
mentions students who are also staff identification
undiagnosed mental illness
add to chl class more de-escalation and proficiency

4:43 catherine sobering
750 against grad student at UT Austin
"How classrooms are different than Walmart-freedom of expression in class

(These are all going to be john woods cult people?)

4:46 Amanda Sun 750 Against
academic advisor and herself
it will cause "gun violence"
She's over 400 people
She the one who tells people they failed etc and is scared of chls who will impulsively shoot her, themselves or others.
Kids are mentally ill and that age group is impulsive. it's stress the kids with guns can't handle and alcohol problems ....
most students she sees are age 23 average
"no one supports these bills and we have to live with it"


4:52 catherine merriweather grew up around hogs , I mean guns but her dad hunted hoggs
She's against everything but knows guns Blinn college is against it and now shes at UT has cell phone and an escort
she is insecure and terrified when Colton Tooley was there but police made her feel safe a chl would make it worse.
I should feel safe blah blah blah
-Committee member said you were close to library, asked what might happen if 2,000 students drew guns on Colton Tooley :banghead:

Re: Campus Carry Hearing Video Link

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:57 pm
by RPB
4:57 catherine seiberman against 86 and 750 (john woods clone represents SFGFs)
1999 offense report CHLs accused (not convicted) drive drunk
wants public school opt-out option
"People don't have a right to defend themselves if it infringes on another's right to life .(sounded good, makes no sense).. Heller '''' Schools" ...
rights are limited
reading real fast .... blah blah blah chls arent trained
maybe make them deputies? and train? (that flew by fast

list of people disapproving mumble speaking too fast to understand ... blah blah individual control ...

John Woods group clapping ///

Re: Campus Carry Hearing Video Link

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:01 pm
by warhorse10_9
RPB wrote: -Committee member said you were close to library, asked what might happen if 2,000 students drew guns on Colton Tooley :banghead:
Committee member = Lon Burnam

Re: Campus Carry Hearing Video Link

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:04 pm
by RPB
5:04 against everything Cathy Setzer grad student n govt professor
She'll go away if we pass this and we'll hire Texan Teachers because she and others will quit, so our unemployment will improve (my paraphrase)
(committee member said effectually, go ahead bye bye "rlol"

5:08 Cody Jarman at A.C.C. too many things can kill us so he's against guns
Says "male appendage envy" will make CHLs play show e yours and mine's bigger
What if 9/11 people had guns (actually thousands might have lived)
he hunts anualy and misses his shot sometimes

5:12 Thomas Just against HB 750 was in air force 6 years
UT student now it's stressful they'll shoot teachers
In law school debating Roe V Wade he'll have to be more polite
(john woods group clapping)

Re: Campus Carry Hearing Video Link

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:16 pm
by RPB
5:16 Eric Lamberton FOR everything
UT Austin student 6 year air force veteran
Very good arguments IMHO
2 amendment
even if majority against it, it needs to pass
If killed, sue each legislator who tried my hands.

5:20 Kyle Shelton SFGFS ,, john woods clone on UT austin campus safety in general they have call boxes so it's safe otherwise i feel l;esssafe he respects us feeling more safe we need to find how to make everyone feel good I feel thats good everyoine needs to vfeel good we need response plans and locks and good feelings everywhere.

Re: Campus Carry Hearing Video Link

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:22 pm
by RPB
5:23 Dr BJ Lee female A&M student and UT has 3 degrees and taught some against everything
temporary insanity if fail a class
was amazed chls can have guns on campus already. please get an escort if feel unsafe and leave gun in the car (to get stolen and used in crime later)
border schools maybe due to cartel, but not here at UT if I was a chl and aimed at colton tooley he'd have shot me.
How many veterinary places got robbed of drugs? :headscratch
Is it enough that i know it's a paranoid schizophrenic so I can draw a gun? :nono:
people get emotional in debates its dangerous they might draw a gun.
various rambling
people excited at football games
Please neuter the bills if they go farther

Re: Campus Carry Hearing Video Link

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:33 pm
by RPB
people turned in witness applications which aren't complete ...

5:31 Reed Long on all bills, for himself, 4th year grad student at UT Chemistry Dept against everything John Woods wants him to say :yawn
guns are great but they'll blow up my laboratory
Reading about Suicide the stuff John gave him to read.

(Committee members ignoring and chatting among themselves)

Re: Campus Carry Hearing Video Link

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:34 pm
by Beiruty
Now a chemist is afraid that your glock will melt when it enters the chemistry lab. What an ignorant statements!

Re: Campus Carry Hearing Video Link

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:35 pm
by RPB
Beiruty wrote:Now a chemist is afraid that your glock will melt when it enter the chemist lab. What an ignorant statements!
"rlol"

Re: Campus Carry Hearing Video Link

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:37 pm
by RPB
5:37
Trevor Partney UT Austin/Afghanistan Veteran against 750 but for CHLs and 2 amendment.
for local control
(audible chatting among committee members and chuckling)
talking about soldiers and negligent discharges
combat is confusing even if we have the same uniform who is the enemy and kids at school won't know ... and police will be impeded

girls being raped need non-lethal mace instead of anything which can be fatal (as wind blows it in their own face)

Re: Campus Carry Hearing Video Link

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:39 pm
by Beiruty
What an Afghan Vertran who cannot ID Friend or Foe even when the suspected target wears the same uniform :banghead:

Re: Campus Carry Hearing Video Link

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:40 pm
by RPB
Beiruty wrote:What an Afghan Vertran who cannot ID Friend or Foe even when the suspected target wears the same uniform :banghead:
yeah everyone in Afghanistan is safer with him at UT then

Re: Campus Carry Hearing Video Link

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:42 pm
by RPB
5:43 Art Acevedo Austin PD against
His cell phone goes off lol takes battery out
"I only have 1 bullet in one of my pockets"
Pro-2 A BUT only for me not 21 year olds
cell phone goes off again
high suicides on campuses
like bars schools don't need guns with bunch of young people running around
colton tooley again told all plain clothes officers watch out, leave the area
Lock gun in glove box and call police during rapes. (but UT crime watch says car burgaries increased on campus)

Question any campus police endorse
dunno nmoe i know

any trouble with CHLs?
nope, very pleasant experiences with them always, but don't belong in schools