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Re: Beretta sells out the gun community
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:40 am
by AdioSS
This doesn't make much sense to me. Has anybody else here heard of Beretta's ARX160? It uses STANAG magazines & is chambered for 5.56NATO.
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It seems that this legislation would outlaw this relatively new item from Beretta as well?
Re: Beretta sells out the gun community
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:02 am
by steve817
doc.lonestar wrote:Was unaware of this till now.
To be honest - not a Beretta fan so this does not have an impact on my firearm choice, but I refuse to consider them going forward
I'm more than a little annoyed that I bought one.
Re: Beretta sells out the gun community
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:20 pm
by snatchel
Anyone visited our forum gun classifieds in the last few days? Lots of Beretta, etc for sale. Coincidence?
Re: Beretta sells out the gun community
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:18 pm
by RiverCity.45
Help me understand, please, why the outrage over a foreign country making laws that have no effect on US gun owners? I mean, Italy doesn't have a 2nd amendment to violate, do they? Our Constitution, gun ownership culture may not apply in other countries. What's up?
Re: Beretta sells out the gun community
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:38 pm
by OldCannon
RiverCity.45 wrote:Help me understand, please, why the outrage over a foreign country making laws that have no effect on US gun owners? I mean, Italy doesn't have a 2nd ammendment to violate, do they? Our Constitution, gun ownership culture may not apply in other countries. What's up?
Because, as I read it, the NRA-equivalent in Italy has asked other countries to stand with them in their fight for gun rights and against those who would sell out their citizens.
Re: Beretta sells out the gun community
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:52 pm
by RiverCity.45
lkd wrote:RiverCity.45 wrote:Help me understand, please, why the outrage over a foreign country making laws that have no effect on US gun owners? I mean, Italy doesn't have a 2nd amendment to violate, do they? Our Constitution, gun ownership culture may not apply in other countries. What's up?
Because, as I read it, the NRA-equivalent in Italy has asked other countries to stand with them in their fight for gun rights and against those who would sell out their citizens.
Anyone know what "gun rights" Italian citizens have enshrined in their laws?
Re: Beretta sells out the gun community
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:14 am
by SQLGeek
I have a problem with it because I do not believe the inalienable right to keep and bear arms stops at our borders.
Re: Beretta sells out the gun community
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:26 am
by Jumping Frog
RiverCity.45 wrote:Help me understand, please, why the outrage over a foreign country making laws that have no effect on US gun owners? I mean, Italy doesn't have a 2nd amendment to violate, do they? Our Constitution, gun ownership culture may not apply in other countries. What's up?
God-given rights do not depend upon a piece of paper, nor do they have political boundaries.
Re: Beretta sells out the gun community
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:01 pm
by RiverCity.45
I don’t recall God saying we have the right to guns. But I haven't spoken to him lately, so maybe I missed that pronouncement.
