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Oldgringo wrote:

surferdaddy wrote:

sugar land dave wrote:If you have a good pocket holster, it should not fall out of your pocket.....

I have them all, Nemisis, Mikes, Recluse, I've had them all slide out whilst sitting at least once. Try getting in/out of 100 cars a day whilst wearing slacks when I couldn't afford to have it happen once.

You asked for advice and you got a bunch of it. The rest is up to you.

Good luck.

Did I ever, got some great ideas and input. Thank you all!

Safety pin, never thought of that. I'll definitely look into kangaroo carry.

Bad situation anyway you look at it. If its concealed too deep, might be better off not having it. Does anyone get off shift at the same time you do. Might go out to parking together. I do know we have a office in Dallas and parking is several blocks away through a area infested with homeless. Even through against company policy I would not go there without being armed.
Sometimes if you are not carrying you are more observant and while not ready for trouble you might not walk into it.
Best tactic is siuation awareness and best defense is avoidance. A weapon is the last defense and still not a quarantee that you will get home. Keep your eyes open and avoid the fight.

I worked at an upscale hotel in downtown Houston and had a simular issue. My place was 30.06 posted so I started having my truck parked in valet. As an employee I knew all the valet attendants so it was free and I didn't have to worry about walking to my truck with a couple hundred bucks in my pocket.

Does someone relieve you when your shift is over? Maybe have that person pick you up at the front door and drive you to your car. Then, he/she gets into your car and you drop them off at the door. Both of you will avoid the walk!

I often have one or two other employees with me when I leave. These goons seem unaffected by victim+1 or 2, they appear to be quite bold.

We have a guest parking garage which would be great as it is within the secured resort area, the only employees which park there are security as they man the gate, A$$e$.

For sure situational awareness is key and my head is on a swivel when I traverse the gauntlet. A gauntlet is truly the best way to describe the space between the resort and employee parking lot. There is a sidewalk flanked by a large resort wall on one side of the street, the other is flanked by the hedges of an upscale shopping area. The lot itself is gated but any one can jump the fence and or attain the gate code.

Smart carry + throw down wallet. Or....A cane, to assist with that leg that troubles you after working on your feet all day. Or maybe the unbreakable umbrella (google it), because you never really know when it might rain. Brass knuckles might be illegal to carry, but Kevlar covered breaching gloves are not, Oakley and Hatch make nice versions. A small spikey Surefire flashlight can do some damage, but a bigger mag light (on budget) or a Streamlight SL-20 (what I carry on the streets) can work wonders. It is my first line of defense in most calls because it's already in my hands since I work nights.

You must think outside the box and become an expert in improvised weapons. Heck, make it a hobby. When I left IAH when I was bartending at the Pappadeaux, my gun was obviousuly in my car, but I would keep a stack of nickels wrapped in my apron pocket and wrap it in my hands anytime someone walked up to me.

gigag04 wrote:Smart carry + throw down wallet. Or....A cane, to assist with that leg that troubles you after working on your feet all day. Or maybe the unbreakable umbrella (google it), because you never really know when it might rain. Brass knuckles might be illegal to carry, but Kevlar covered breaching gloves are not, Oakley and Hatch make nice versions. A small spikey Surefire flashlight can do some damage, but a bigger mag light (on budget) or a Streamlight SL-20 (what I carry on the streets) can work wonders. It is my first line of defense in most calls because it's already in my hands since I work nights.

You must think outside the box and become an expert in improvised weapons. Heck, make it a hobby. When I left IAH when I was bartending at the Pappadeaux, my gun was obviousuly in my car, but I would keep a stack of nickels wrapped in my apron pocket and wrap it in my hands anytime someone walked up to me.

That umbrella is cool, but $180! Wow. Your comments have sure got me thinking about what I can use. We have a guy that used to work in corrections in Nevada, I recall a story he told about a sock-in-a-lock. Hey, I take socks to work and use a locker. Wonder what would be the legal ramifications if I were to use this combo in a self defense situation. So, who makes the best/strongest socks? Any kevlar socks out there?

I meant lock-in-a-sock.

Well what do ya know. Seems that both ice hockey players and cyclists sometimes require a little extra protection for the dogs. Kevlar socks and master locks just may fit the bill.

Talk to your supervisor and make them aware of your concerns for security. If they don't feel your safety warrants allowing you to park in a secured lot I would take it to hotel management.

A Belly band or holster shirt might work for you. A holster shirt would allow you the change in the locker room, assuming you duck into a stall to take the gun in and out. 511 tactical has some that seem ok.
The situation you are describing sounds like you need to just violate the company policy. If you ever have to draw your weapon, the company policy will not be your biggest concern. Others here have mentioned a Surefire flashlight. In your situation, I think this could be extremely valuable. If you have a super bright 120 lum light, you can openly carry it and use it as part of your job, but they are great as a defensive tool at night. If you are on your way to your car and see someone approaching you, light them up. This should blind them, screw up their senses, and allow you to access your weapon from a slow draw, high concealment holster. I would also recommend getting a grip laser.
Conceal deep, and go about your job. Good luck.

All of these "contact" method means that you would have to be in "contact" range. Depending on how long your arms are that could be too close -- at least for me. The best answer I can give is to use a method where you can reach out and touch someone without putting yourself in close contact danger. The undershirt that holds your weapon is a good idea. A couple of men on our security team at church use them. Good luck on whatever method you decide to use.

Semper Fi

You'd be suprised. I have a very physically demanding career and with the proper concielment holster, after sveral days, you will become so used to it that you will barely even notice it. It is highly unlikely that your employer wold ever be the wiser also.

erick619 wrote:Does someone relieve you when your shift is over? Maybe have that person pick you up at the front door and drive you to your car. Then, he/she gets into your car and you drop them off at the door. Both of you will avoid the walk!

That is actually a pretty elegant suggestion! In addition to the security that adds to the situation, you can also carry under MPA and have that added element of protection.

RJ

johnson0317 wrote:

erick619 wrote:Does someone relieve you when your shift is over? Maybe have that person pick you up at the front door and drive you to your car. Then, he/she gets into your car and you drop them off at the door. Both of you will avoid the walk!

That is actually a pretty elegant suggestion! In addition to the security that adds to the situation, you can also carry under MPA and have that added element of protection.

RJ

Seems like this would leave his job post unoccupied for quiet some time. He would have to clock out, go out front, get in the car, get in his car, drive his relief back, then they would have to clock in. I say valet your car.