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Re: Austin officer killed on duty at Wal Mart
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:31 am
by A-R
TLE2 wrote:Prays for the family of the slain policeman.
Time to ban Walmart.
An idiot in my neighborhood literally proposed just that the same day this happened and used this tragedy to spin his anti-WalMart political agenda (I wish I was making this up)
Wal Mart has purchased land and is planning to open a new store within a mile of my neighborhood and this guy is trying to rile up the neighbors to protest this to city council. His latest spin ... this officer was killed BECAUSE Wal Mart is open 24 hours

, thus forcing the police to respond to this late-night disturbance call that would not happen if Wal Mart closed its doors at 9 pm like a good little neighborhood business. Because as we all know, if there's no 24-hour WalMart then there can be no 2:30 pm disturbance calls in your town. Drunk pieces of filth jonesin' for another Xanex fix like this murderer will just quietly return to their apartments to play video games if there's no Wal Mart open for business to give them the perfect location for their murderous insanity

Re: Austin officer killed on duty at Wal Mart
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:19 pm
by sjfcontrol
Looks like Alcohol and Xanax don't play nicely together...
One of the possible side-effects of Xanax (overdose?) is hallucinations.
http://xanax-side-effects.net/alcohol-and-xanax/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Austin officer killed on duty at Wal Mart
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:38 pm
by OldCannon
A-R wrote:
An idiot in my neighborhood literally proposed just that the same day this happened and used this tragedy to spin his anti-WalMart political agenda (I wish I was making this up)
It's your fault for LISTENING to that clown

Re: Austin officer killed on duty at Wal Mart
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:33 pm
by eureka40
It's very easy to stop by any Chase bank location and make a donation to Officer Padron's account/fund.
It only takes a couple of minutes and I'm sure his family will appreciate it.
Re: Austin officer killed on duty at Wal Mart
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:08 am
by A-R
Names of the two brave Wal Mart employees who detained and disarmed the gunmen released along with their police report statements. Neither talking to media, and hopefully the media will honor their request for privacy and leave them alone.
Mother confirms shooter was on Xanax and tequila and depressed about break up with girlfriend.

boo hoo - no extenuating circumstances there, far as I'm concerned - get him to the Huntsville waiting list ASAP.
http://www.statesman.com/story-2289833.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Austin officer killed on duty at Wal Mart
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:08 am
by C-dub
A-R wrote:Names of the two brave Wal Mart employees who detained and disarmed the gunmen released along with their police report statements. Neither talking to media, and hopefully the media will honor their request for privacy and leave them alone.
Mother confirms shooter was on Xanax and tequila and depressed about break up with girlfriend.

boo hoo - no extenuating circumstances there, far as I'm concerned - get him to the Huntsville waiting list ASAP.
http://www.statesman.com/story-2289833.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Yup. That'll solve his girlfriend problem.
Re: Austin officer killed on duty at Wal Mart
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:22 am
by WildBill
Lewis Kram wrote:gigag04 wrote:If he got drunk at a bar, I wouldn't be surprised to see charges filed there too.
What charges? What about the doctor who prescribed the drugs?
I believe that gigag04 is referring to this:
Texas Alcoholic Beverage Code ยง 101.63. SALE TO CERTAIN PERSONS.
(a) A person commits an offense if the person with criminal negligence sells an
alcoholic beverage to an habitual drunkard or an intoxicated or
insane person.
(b) Except as provided in Subsection (c) of this section, a
violation of this section is a misdemeanor punishable by a fine of
not less than $100 nor more than $500, by confinement in jail for
not more than one year, or by both.
(c) If a person has been previously convicted of a violation
of this section or of Section 106.03 of this code, a violation is a
misdemeanor punishable by a fine of not less than $500 nor more than
$1,000, by confinement in jail for not more than one year, or by
both.
Re: Austin officer killed on duty at Wal Mart
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:29 pm
by boba
That's a pretty high standard. Especially if the killer had the motor skills to get to Walmart without help.
A person acts with criminal negligence, or is criminally negligent, with respect to circumstances surrounding his conduct or the result of his conduct when he ought to be aware of a substantial and unjustifiable risk that the circumstances exist or the result will occur. The risk must be of such a nature and degree that the failure to perceive it constitutes a gross deviation from the standard of care that an ordinary person would exercise under all the circumstances as viewed from the actor's standpoint.
Re: Austin officer killed on duty at Wal Mart
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:59 pm
by WildBill
boba wrote:That's a pretty high standard. Especially if the killer had the motor skills to get to Walmart without help.
A person acts with criminal negligence, or is criminally negligent, with respect to circumstances surrounding his conduct or the result of his conduct when he ought to be aware of a substantial and unjustifiable risk that the circumstances exist or the result will occur. The risk must be of such a nature and degree that the failure to perceive it constitutes a gross deviation from the standard of care that an ordinary person would exercise under all the circumstances as viewed from the actor's standpoint.
It is a high standard. It would also depend on where and when the person took the Xanax and whether the "killer" was a frequent customer that particular bar or tavern.
Re: Austin officer killed on duty at Wal Mart
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:01 pm
by boba
Sorry. Should I say "alleged killer" instead?
Re: Austin officer killed on duty at Wal Mart
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:18 pm
by Beiruty
Back to topic. Is it a trend that the killer is always claiming he has no recollectionof the murder he commited ?
Re: Austin officer killed on duty at Wal Mart
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:05 pm
by WildBill
Beiruty wrote:Back to topic. Is it a trend that the killer is always claiming he has no recollectionof the murder he commited ?
I don't know if it's a trend, but with high doses of Tequila and Xanax I believe that the possibilty of memory loss is very high.
Re: Austin officer killed on duty at Wal Mart
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:58 pm
by sjfcontrol
WildBill wrote:Beiruty wrote:Back to topic. Is it a trend that the killer is always claiming he has no recollectionof the murder he commited ?
I don't know if it's a trend, but with high doses of Tequila and Xanax I believe that the possibilty of memory loss is very high.
Yep! Somewhat surprising that he could even aim.
The combination of alcohol and Xanax can cause psychological and medical problems such as, but not limited to:
Loss of short term memory, or if a large enough amount is consumed, long term memory loss
Extreme dizziness
Inability concentrate
Severe headaches and migraines
Drowsiness and a constant feeling of wanting to faint
Unusual behaviors, mostly attributed to alcohols ability to cause judgement impairments in a user, though combined with Xanax these impairments are intensified
A complete lack of coordination and motor skills
Nausea and vomiting
These are only a few of the less severe side effects that combining alcohol and Xanax together can cause. If large enough dosages of the substances are ingested, the user can suffer from severe medical conditions such as, but not limited to:
Coma
Esophagus damage due to an increase in vomiting
Seizures
Permanent brain damage
Kidney damage
Liver damage
Heart attacks
Death
Re: Austin officer killed on duty at Wal Mart
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:59 pm
by Lambda Force
sjfcontrol wrote:Yep! Somewhat surprising that he could even aim.
From the story I thought it was a contact shot.
Re: Austin officer killed on duty at Wal Mart
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:17 pm
by gigag04
Civil penalties look interesting...if this was a bar thing:
http://www.tabc.state.tx.us/enforcement ... ervice.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;