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Re: Houston Police Officer Shoots Double Amputee

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:38 pm
by VoiceofReason
My two cents.

Houston police are quick on the trigger. Does anyone remember the boy (13 I think) that was shot in the head? I believe he had done something minor and at least two officers were wrestling him on the floor and one of the officers stated “his gun went off”.

Another time a bunch of officers opened up on a man and shot him a ridiculous number of times. A couple of the officers shot each other and the subject was shot numerous times in the back when he was on the floor. They found slugs imbedded in the wood floor (http://ndsn.org/julaug98/lawenf2.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;). The man turned out to be unarmed.

I am not judging these officers but I would not put a lot of stock in the Grand Jury not indicting.

For those too young to remember, look up Joe Campos Torres.

And yes, I have been an Leo and in a few shoot/don't shoot situations.

This is not meant to bash all LEO’s. My position is that when there is a police shooting that doesn’t look right, it should be investigated thoroughly. There are a few bad officers then there are some that break the law. Those that break the law are criminals and should suffer the full force of the justice system. I cannot think of any worse type of oppression than to break the law under the color of law.

If police officers are investigated for wrongdoing, they should be investigated thoroughly and speedily. If innocent they should be returned to duty quickly so it doesn’t “hang over their heads”. If the investigation shows wrongdoing the officer(s) should receive the punishment anyone else would. Anything else betrays the respect most people have for the badge.

Re: Houston Police Officer Shoots Double Amputee

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:48 am
by EEllis
VoiceofReason wrote:My two cents.
Another time a bunch of officers opened up on a man and shot him a ridiculous number of times. A couple of the officers shot each other and the subject was shot numerous times in the back when he was on the floor. They found slugs imbedded in the wood floor (http://ndsn.org/julaug98/lawenf2.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;). The man turned out to be unarmed.
Umm nope. Mr Oregon had a gun just never fired it. The cop first going thru the bedroom door saw the gun and either froze or retreated while yelling "Gun!" and there was a collision with the officer in the #2 spot that caused that officer to ND into the the back of the first officer. After hearing Gun! and then the gun shot the officers thought they were in a gun fight and started shooting. Definitely a screw up but a tactical one not some sign of rogue cops.

Re: Houston Police Officer Shoots Double Amputee

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:00 am
by texanjoker
VoiceofReason wrote:My two cents.

Houston police are quick on the trigger. Does anyone remember the boy (13 I think) that was shot in the head? I believe he had done something minor and at least two officers were wrestling him on the floor and one of the officers stated “his gun went off”.

Another time a bunch of officers opened up on a man and shot him a ridiculous number of times. A couple of the officers shot each other and the subject was shot numerous times in the back when he was on the floor. They found slugs imbedded in the wood floor (http://ndsn.org/julaug98/lawenf2.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;). The man turned out to be unarmed.

I am not judging these officers but I would not put a lot of stock in the Grand Jury not indicting.

For those too young to remember, look up Joe Campos Torres.

And yes, I have been an Leo and in a few shoot/don't shoot situations.

This is not meant to bash all LEO’s. My position is that when there is a police shooting that doesn’t look right, it should be investigated thoroughly. There are a few bad officers then there are some that break the law. Those that break the law are criminals and should suffer the full force of the justice system. I cannot think of any worse type of oppression than to break the law under the color of law.

If police officers are investigated for wrongdoing, they should be investigated thoroughly and speedily. If innocent they should be returned to duty quickly so it doesn’t “hang over their heads”. If the investigation shows wrongdoing the officer(s) should receive the punishment anyone else would. Anything else betrays the respect most people have for the badge.
ALL police shootings are investigated thoroughly.

Re: Houston Police Officer Shoots Double Amputee

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:05 am
by talltex
jmra wrote: The fact of the matter is the guy in the wheel chair might well have been able to beat most of the people on this forum in a butt kicking contest.
My apologies to everyone in advance...but that is just too tempting to pass up. REALLY...the proverbial "one legged man in a butt kicking contest" ??? :biggrinjester:

Re: Houston Police Officer Shoots Double Amputee

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:15 am
by Charles L. Cotton
texanjoker wrote:ALL police shootings are investigated thoroughly.
"rlol" :smilelol5: :rolll :lol:

"That's my story judge and I'm sticking to it!"

Chas.

Re: Houston Police Officer Shoots Double Amputee

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:50 pm
by Dori
talltex wrote:
jmra wrote: The fact of the matter is the guy in the wheel chair might well have been able to beat most of the people on this forum in a butt kicking contest.
My apologies to everyone in advance...but that is just too tempting to pass up. REALLY...the proverbial "one legged man in a butt kicking contest" ??? :biggrinjester:
It's just a flesh wound!

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Re: Houston Police Officer Shoots Double Amputee

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:58 pm
by VoiceofReason
EEllis wrote:
VoiceofReason wrote:My two cents.
Another time a bunch of officers opened up on a man and shot him a ridiculous number of times. A couple of the officers shot each other and the subject was shot numerous times in the back when he was on the floor. They found slugs imbedded in the wood floor (http://ndsn.org/julaug98/lawenf2.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;). The man turned out to be unarmed.
Umm nope. Mr Oregon had a gun just never fired it. The cop first going thru the bedroom door saw the gun and either froze or retreated while yelling "Gun!" and there was a collision with the officer in the #2 spot that caused that officer to ND into the the back of the first officer. After hearing Gun! and then the gun shot the officers thought they were in a gun fight and started shooting. Definitely a screw up but a tactical one not some sign of rogue cops.
If my memory is correct the gun was in the bedroom. He did not have a gun on him.

Re: Houston Police Officer Shoots Double Amputee

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:52 pm
by mojo84
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
texanjoker wrote:ALL police shootings are investigated thoroughly.
"rlol" :smilelol5: :rolll :lol:

"That's my story judge and I'm sticking to it!"

Chas.

And the results and findings of the investigations are always accurate and just.

Re: Houston Police Officer Shoots Double Amputee

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:39 am
by VMI77
mojo84 wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
texanjoker wrote:ALL police shootings are investigated thoroughly.
"rlol" :smilelol5: :rolll :lol:

"That's my story judge and I'm sticking to it!"

Chas.

And the results and findings of the investigations are always accurate and just.
Come on now, without a thorough investigation you can't know what you have to cover up.

Re: Houston Police Officer Shoots Double Amputee

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:24 pm
by talltex
Dori wrote:
talltex wrote:
jmra wrote: The fact of the matter is the guy in the wheel chair might well have been able to beat most of the people on this forum in a butt kicking contest.
My apologies to everyone in advance...but that is just too tempting to pass up. REALLY...the proverbial "one legged man in a butt kicking contest" ??? :biggrinjester:
It's just a flesh wound!

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"rlol" "ohhh, running away, eh? well, come back her and I'll BITE you!"