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Back in the late '70s, I sold a Colt 1911 .38 Super to another deputy who carried a revolver.

I told him to take the time to get familiar with it. His reply was, "I know all I need to know."

Shortly after, while at home, he shot himself in the hand.

Mike1951 wrote:Back in the late '70s, I sold a Colt 1911 .38 Super to another deputy who carried a revolver.

I told him to take the time to get familiar with it. His reply was, "I know all I need to know."

Shortly after, while at home, he shot himself in the hand.

That is a sure sign of trouble...

Ok you ignore rule number 1. You ignore rule number 3. You ignore rule number 4. But he also ignored rule number 2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy. (NRA rule number 1)

So you feel you must pull the trigger as part of your unloading of the gun, why do you point it at a customer when you pull the trigger?

Maybe it is time for the state legislators to require a minimum 20 year jail sentence for a ND when some one is injured besides themselves. Maybe this would get people who handle guns to pay more attention to what they are doing. As it is now, you just say to police "it went off suddenly without any warning". Your insurance company has to settle a claim and you feel guilty for a couple of weeks.

philip964 wrote: So you feel you must pull the trigger as part of your unloading of the gun, why do you point it at a customer when you pull the trigger?

Why in the world do people do that? I never ever pull the trigger on any of my firearms after unloading/clearing them. What is the point? Just to make sure it is unloaded? I use my eyeballs for checking. That's how I make sure. Use your eyes and look into the chamber.

tomtexan wrote:

philip964 wrote: So you feel you must pull the trigger as part of your unloading of the gun, why do you point it at a customer when you pull the trigger?

Why in the world do people do that? I never ever pull the trigger on any of my firearms after unloading/clearing them. What is the point? Just to make sure it is unloaded?

Maybe he was intending to practice dry-firing? Also, some guns require you to pull the trigger as part of the take-down procedure.

Dave2 wrote: Maybe he was intending to practice dry-firing? Also, some guns require you to pull the trigger as part of the take-down procedure.

Whichever the case may be, still no excuse for not looking in the chamber to make sure it is clear. If you look into the chamber and make sure it is free of any live rounds and have no loaded magazine in the firearm, there will never be a ND or AD. I'll say it again, use them eyeballs.

tomtexan wrote:

Dave2 wrote: If you look into the chamber and make sure it is free of any live rounds and have no loaded magazine in the firearm, there will never be a ND or AD. I'll say it again, use them eyeballs.

That is only ONE reason or cause for ND's, there are many others that have NOTHING to do with improper unloading and clearing of a weapon.

why do you point it at a customer when you pull the trigger?

You don't, that's just being stupid (not YOU the trigger puller)

Why in the world do people do that? I never ever pull the trigger on any of my firearms after unloading/clearing them.

Several reasons..
1: Some weapons require you to pull the trigger to complete the disassemble,,, and it's never an issue, if you unload and clear it properly.
2: Dry fire, after unloading and clearing.
3: In many LEO and security agency's, after unloading, clearing the weapon, you place the muzzle in a clearing barrel (device) and cock the hammer (charge the weapon), then pull the trigger as a final clearing step.