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Re: Law on your side?
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:47 pm
by E.Marquez
Andrew wrote:My apologies Sergeant Major.
and even less to folks on the internet
Thank you, but unrequired...Unless your in 1ST CAV, HHBN.. In which case... Come see me in the morning....

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Re: Law on your side?
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:53 am
by texanjoker
E.Marquez wrote:G26ster wrote:Andrew wrote:May I congratulate you on your admirable show of restraint, First Sergeant?
11A hoo-ah!
I see 11A is now the MOS for Infantry Officer. In my day it was 1542. 11B and 11C in my day were Infantry and Heavy Weapons Infantry (enlisted). No 11A then. When did this all change (just curious)?
It has not changed..in a bunch of years.... and of course is a differnt numbering system then the CORPS has.
An 11A is an Officer, infantry Branch.
11B is the enlisted infantry branch MOS E1-E8, and then there are a few possible Additional Skill Identifiers (ASI)
First Sergeant (1SG) is a lateral assignment, they are still an E-8 but while filling the 1SG duty position have an Skill Qualification Identifier (SQI) "M" that shows they are filling that position and not a master sergeant position.
11Z is the MOS for a US ARMY Senior enlisted Infantryman (Sergeant Major, E-9).
I am a 11Z with a few ASI's, and a couple of SQI's
ASI 8S senior-level sergeant-major experience (2 Star HQ and above)
B2--Light Leaders Course
B7--Bradley Transition Course
B8--Anti-Armor Leaders Course
E9--M901 (ITV) Gunner/Crew Training
P5--Master Fitness Trainer
2B--Air Assault
2C--Javelin Gunnery
2S--Battle Staff Operations
5A- Joint Air Tactical Operations, 5W—Jumpmaster.
SQIs (Special Qualification Identifiers)
H - Instructor
M - First Sergeant
N - Joint Planner
P - Parachutist
X - Drill Sergeant
Z - Alcohol and Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Program
2 - Training Development
and lots of training that has no geewizbang codes to identify them.
All of that and $4.95 gets me a Whopper JR special all day long at Burger King, means absolutely nothing to anyone but my employer.. and even less to folks on the internet

You are just a bad wait I can't use the next word per forum rules and I salute you

! I would bet in person you are probably like my 2 fishing buddies back in the peoples republic. Both retired USMC, one a ret Sgt. Major and the other a retired Gunny. Both Vietnam vets and very good people. I got to know Sgt. Major working the massive fires that destroyed over 2500 homes. Sgt Major and his 1911 stayed behind after his home was destroyed because some of his neighbors homes survived. We couldn't be everywhere. He provided urban looter defense for his neighbors. I don't think the looters liked fixing the holes in their cars.

(all hypothetical

) after the fact, his very liberal anti gun neighbor bought a shot gun and had Sgt. Major teach him how to use it.
Re: Law on your side?
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:01 pm
by texanjoker
SigP250 wrote:Hi, everyone I am looking into getting my CHL next month. The more I read into the law and understand our rights as civilians and for our own protection, its seems that its easy to get a CHL however hard to use it. I mean I understand avoid any conflict and run when possible but say your cornered or someone is going to stab/shoot you or your spouse and shoot them in self defense I keep hearing that you more likely be charged with murder then self-defense. So I mean I want to protect myself but what if I do have to protect myself and then go to prison, kinda a double edge sword. Is the law on our side or ? Thank you everyone for your input!
One thing I tell everybody, and this goes for a CHL, non CHL and LEO. You NEED to have a plan of action to retain an attorney in the event you use deadly force. Whether you pay for legal protection or just retain one on your own I always advise this. Using an attorney does not mean you did anything wrong and is not an admission of guilty. The wealthy already know to have an attorney whenever they talk to LEO about anything. The smart criminals know this as well. As such the normal law abiding citizen also needs to know using an attorney is a wise decision after a deadly force incident. Even though I knew I did nothing wrong and did not violate any policy, you can be sure my attorney was present during my officer involved shootings because using deadly force
is a criminal investigation.
Re: Law on your side?
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:06 pm
by Andrew
E.Marquez wrote:Andrew wrote:My apologies Sergeant Major.
and even less to folks on the internet
Thank you, but unrequired...Unless your in 1ST CAV, HHBN.. In which case... Come see me in the morning....

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LOL. No, 8th 2/87, a long time ago.