Intentional police encounters by open carry/ chkpoint refuse

[RX8er]

That's absolutely untrue:

That LEO sure has more patience than I do.

[JALLEN]

As far as these checkpoints go, I have never had a problem with them...Our trip to California last year, was uneventful...We were never asked to be searched at those checkpoints between Houston and San Diego...Only the obvious question(s), "Are you American citizens?", to which I wanted to answer "no", we're Japanese...

What checkpoints are there between Houston and San Diego?

I know they still have the veggie check just this side of Yuma to check for smuggling plants and vegetable matter into the state. That's a state gig. I know the BP have a westbound one out in the mountains that is sometimes manned and open, and the eastbound one just before you go down the mountain that is seldom open. Are there more?

Many years ago, we were down in San Felipe, Baja for a triathlon. On the way back, my buddy realized he had left his green card at home. He is a Kiwi. For nearly 100 miles, I had him practice saying "Howdy pahdner, Ah'm from Houston" like I did. At the border, they just looked in the car and waived us through. Probably a good thing because he couldn't have fooled Helen Keller with that accent.

[RX8er]

As far as these checkpoints go, I have never had a problem with them...Our trip to California last year, was uneventful...We were never asked to be searched at those checkpoints between Houston and San Diego...Only the obvious question(s), "Are you American citizens?", to which I wanted to answer "no", we're Japanese...

What checkpoints are there between Houston and San Diego?

I know they still have the veggie check just this side of Yuma to check for smuggling plants and vegetable matter into the state. That's a state gig. I know the BP have a westbound one out in the mountains that is sometimes manned and open, and the eastbound one just before you go down the mountain that is seldom open. Are there more?

Many years ago, we were down in San Felipe, Baja for a triathlon. On the way back, my buddy realized he had left his green card at home. He is a Kiwi. For nearly 100 miles, I had him practice saying "Howdy pahdner, Ah'm from Houston" like I did. At the border, they just looked in the car and waived us through. Probably a good thing because he couldn't have fooled Helen Keller with that accent.

It's been a few years since I have been out that way but CBP has an eastbound checkpoint in Texas. I've been through it half a dozen times and only had to stop once. And that was because the agents wanted to talk to a truck in front of me. All other times it was a rolling encounter and waved through.

[MamaK]

I'm sure most of us have seen some of the videos on YouTube of people open carrying and filming the police encounters. There also many videos of immigration checkpoint refusals. My question to the forum is .. What is your take on this kind of behavior. Do you think it makes matters worse for open carry proponents? The immigration topic is a little different but in both cases, it is U.S citizens excercising their rights.

In my opinion, any type of behavior which presents the subject as confrontational,in a child like manner, does far more harm than good. To undo a lot of the damage over the years, we must convince the vast majority that we are exceptional citizens. Texas CHL holders do exactly that with the data to prove it. We are well behaved sheep dogs who ( if we individually choose) pose an additional layer of protection from the wolves.

Whenever someone presents themselves as overly aggressive or confrontational, in the eyes of many, we all get painted with a broad brush. Its not good to upset the sheep as the farmer will have no use for you.

Since Texas CHL holders conduct themselves as upsatanding citizens and most sheep never know we're armed, no problem.

Besides, isn't that the kind of behavior you're supposed to refrain from when you have a CHL? (instigating, or attempting to escalate a situation)

[jayinsat]

This story shows a responsible way of exercising ones rights without being a total jerk and waiting LEO time and resources.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/05 ... m-the-gun/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Got this from another post on the forum.