I agree with you there Purplehood. I get no real meaning from the sign. It looks like corporate bull sign. If the manager of that location went the extra mile to properly post with 30.06 I would stop doing business there but if they are only putting up the required corporate initiated signage then I just don't care enough to stop going. They aren't impeding my rights at all.Purplehood wrote:I don't pretend to be able to determine the intent of a less-than-legal sign banning firearms from a business, so the statement above has no meaning to me.VMI77 wrote:I don't understand the mentality of voluntarily giving your money to people who want to prevent you from exercising your right to self-defense --especially when purchasing something that is unnecessary? I'm looking for enlightenment and wonder if someone who does this might be willing to discuss the reasoning behind providing financial support to your enemies? Unless it is someplace you have to go, like work, I don't get why the sign makes a difference since even if it doesn't meet the legal standard, it still advertizes the fact that a business seeks to prevent you from exercising your right to self-defense?
If I did intend to read minds, I imagine that it would be along the lines of the owner thinking, "Hey, the dummies out there think that this will stop the nasty gun-nuts from coming in here, while the people with CHL's will know that they are tacitly approved of".
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Well, in this case, the company has made a public statement that is anti-self-defense and anti-gun, so there isn't much doubt. But as to your chosen interpretation.......What if you saw a sign that said "homosexuals unwelcome" or not allowed? Would you think the owner was trying to appeal to people who felt more comfortable not being around homosexuals, while at the same time knowing that since one's sexuality can be concealed, that he'd fooled all the dummies who think the sign will stop all the nasty homos from coming in here, while the homosexuals will know they're tacitly approved of? For me, the application of Occam's razor makes more sense than contriving a secret double meaning. I think the secret double meaning analysis is a rationalization and that people who put up no gun signs really are anti-gun.Purplehood wrote:I don't pretend to be able to determine the intent of a less-than-legal sign banning firearms from a business, so the statement above has no meaning to me.VMI77 wrote:I don't understand the mentality of voluntarily giving your money to people who want to prevent you from exercising your right to self-defense --especially when purchasing something that is unnecessary? I'm looking for enlightenment and wonder if someone who does this might be willing to discuss the reasoning behind providing financial support to your enemies? Unless it is someplace you have to go, like work, I don't get why the sign makes a difference since even if it doesn't meet the legal standard, it still advertizes the fact that a business seeks to prevent you from exercising your right to self-defense?
If I did intend to read minds, I imagine that it would be along the lines of the owner thinking, "Hey, the dummies out there think that this will stop the nasty gun-nuts from coming in here, while the people with CHL's will know that they are tacitly approved of".
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Re: A Funny Buffalo Wild Wings Sign
I don't pretend to know what goes on in the minds of business executives responsible for decisions like this. But after 30 years of working with customer executive suites, I've seen more than a few times how they get implemented.knotquiteawake wrote: I agree with you there Purplehood. I get no real meaning from the sign. It looks like corporate bull sign. If the manager of that location went the extra mile to properly post with 30.06 I would stop doing business there but if they are only putting up the required corporate initiated signage then I just don't care enough to stop going. They aren't impeding my rights at all.
The corporate offices of BWW are in Minneapolis. The MN penal code 624.714 contains the following
According to handgunlaw.us. these signs have to force of law in MN.i) the requester has prominently posted a conspicuous sign at every entrance to the establishment containing the following language: "(INDICATE IDENTITY OF OPERATOR) BANS GUNS IN THESE PREMISES."; or
I suspect that no lawyer was involved to advise management that not all State penal codes are the same. An administrative assistant looked up the MN version and all stores were directed to comply. Executive suite inhabitants often breath only in their own atmosphere in which the reality of people's lives is seldom present.
I have and probably will again walk past such a sign as BWW has. But I'm becoming more militant about not sponsoring those who act as though the rule of law doesn't exist. If it did exist, they might actually have read and comply with it - the same as the rest of us.
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Now THAT is pretty funny. Definitely just corporate waving a magic corporate wand to make things happen that actually do nothing but make them feel better about themselves.chasfm11 wrote:knotquiteawake wrote: The corporate offices of BWW are in Minneapolis. The MN penal code 624.714 contains the following
According to handgunlaw.us. these signs have to force of law in MN.i) the requester has prominently posted a conspicuous sign at every entrance to the establishment containing the following language: "(INDICATE IDENTITY OF OPERATOR) BANS GUNS IN THESE PREMISES."; or
I suspect that no lawyer was involved to advise management that not all State penal codes are the same. An administrative assistant looked up the MN version and all stores were directed to comply. Executive suite inhabitants often breath only in their own atmosphere in which the reality of people's lives is seldom present.
I have and probably will again walk past such a sign as BWW has. But I'm becoming more militant about not sponsoring those who act as though the rule of law doesn't exist. If it did exist, they might actually have read and comply with it - the same as the rest of us.