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Re: Special Session -- 2013

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 7:06 pm
by Bladed
RHenriksen wrote:
CWOOD wrote:My personal opinion, without any "special" information, is that the Governor will probably want to get the redistricting out of the way and put to bed before throwing other items into the mix.

Redistricting is going to be contentious enough with out bargaining for other items as a distraction.

THEN we can get it on.
That's my suspicion as well. Keeping the agenda uncluttered at a single item prevents horsetrading away other things and holds their feet to the fire.
I seriously doubt that will happen. If Governor Perry were to wait until redistricting passed and then add social issues (e.g., guns, abortion, etc.) to the call, those social issues would then be the only things keeping the special session going (a special session lasts 30 days OR until all called issues are resolved), at a cost of $36,000/day in taxpayer money. That could potentially land the governor in hot water with not only the liberals who oppose the agenda but also with the fiscal conservatives who oppose the public expense. If Governor Perry is going to add social issues to the agenda, he'll most likely do so while he has the cover of a necessary procedural issue like redistricting.

Re: Special Session -- 2013

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 7:21 pm
by OldGrumpy
Historically once a session gets started the Governor adds items for consideration. I would expect the same this year.

Re: Special Session -- 2013

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 8:54 pm
by 4copas
SawdustBytes wrote:HB 12 was filed on 5/28: Relating to certain firearms, firearm accessories, and firearm ammunition within the State of Texas; providing an exemption from federal regulation and providing penalties.

SB 9 was filed on 5/29: Relating to the carrying of concealed handguns on the campuses of and certain other locations associated with institutions of higher education.

SB 17 was filed on 5/29: Relating to certain offenses relating to carrying concealed handguns on property owned or leased by a governmental entity; providing a civil penalty.

HOWEVER ---

They are essentially moot until the governor adds them to the agenda.
Above in red is actually SB 16 not 17.

Re: Special Session -- 2013

Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 9:19 am
by styxx
I get far too confused with the "starting over with new bill numbers in the Special Session" thing . . . I communicated to the Governor's office asking for additions to the Special Session agenda using the "old" (HB 3218, HB 508, etc.) bill numbers, but described each for clarification.
:patriot:

Re: Special Session -- 2013

Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 10:18 am
by 2firfun50
styxx wrote:I get far too confused with the "starting over with new bill numbers in the Special Session" thing . . . I communicated to the Governor's office asking for additions to the Special Session agenda using the "old" (HB 3218, HB 508, etc.) bill numbers, but described each for clarification.
:patriot:
Has anyone seen any bills filed similar to HB3218? I haven't.

Re: Special Session -- 2013

Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 10:52 am
by TexasCajun
So far only:
SB9- campus carry
SB16- invalid 30.06 posting on public property
HB12-prohibiting firearms & firearms components made & sold in Texas from federal regulation
HB15- prohibiting state/local authorities from enforcing federal anti-2a laws

Re: Special Session -- 2013

Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 11:31 am
by 2firfun50
TexasCajun wrote:So far only:
SB9- campus carry
SB16- invalid 30.06 posting on public property
HB12-prohibiting firearms & firearms components made & sold in Texas from federal regulation
HB15- prohibiting state/local authorities from enforcing federal anti-2a laws
Thanks, thats all I saw too.

Re: Special Session -- 2013

Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 6:20 pm
by jerry_r60
TexasCajun wrote:So far only:
SB9- campus carry
SB16- invalid 30.06 posting on public property
HB12-prohibiting firearms & firearms components made & sold in Texas from federal regulation
HB15- prohibiting state/local authorities from enforcing federal anti-2a laws
I was trying to compare HB12 and HB15. I was not seeing anything in HB12 about firearms or components made in Texas. Where did you see that?

I can only see some minor language differences between HB12 & HB15. I see 12 saying TX authorities can not enfore new fed laws restricting firearm types and capacities etc., if they differ from state law. I understand 15 to have a subtle difference in that TX authorities "may not contract with or in any other manner provide assistance to" Feds enforcing the same types of laws defined in HB12.

There is of course more language about not accepting grants etc. I'm finding it very difficult to see a substantive difference between HB12 & HB15.

Re: Special Session -- 2013

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:22 am
by TexasCajun
HB 12 Author: Toth
Last Action: 05/28/2013 H Filed
Caption: Relating to certain firearms, firearm accessories, and firearm ammunition within the State of Texas; providing an exemption from federal regulation and providing penalties

Re: Special Session -- 2013

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:23 am
by TexasCajun
HB 15 Author: Krause
Last Action: 05/28/2013 H Filed
Caption: Relating to the enforcement of certain federal laws regulating firearms, firearm accessories, and firearm ammunition within the State of Texas.

Re: Special Session -- 2013

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:39 pm
by jerry_r60
TexasCajun wrote:HB 12 Author: Toth
Last Action: 05/28/2013 H Filed
Caption: Relating to certain firearms, firearm accessories, and firearm ammunition within the State of Texas; providing an exemption from federal regulation and providing penalties
I saw those captions. Reading the bill it's, about not allowing Texas authorities to enforce new federal laws ristricting firearms and firearm accessories. It doesn't say anything that I saw about the firearms or accessories specificly made in Texas.

Re: Special Session -- 2013

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:37 pm
by gringo pistolero
This year, with no Presidential nomination on the line, we'll find out how Rick Perry really feels about our gun rights.

Re: Special Session -- 2013

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:44 pm
by JKTex
gringo pistolero wrote:This year, with no Presidential nomination on the line, we'll find out how Rick Perry really feels about our gun rights.
:headscratch How? He's not a King, just a Governor. :txflag:

Re: Special Session -- 2013

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:03 pm
by Tic Tac
You're right. He's the Governor. The agenda of a special session is his decision alone.

If he puts RKBA reform on the table, and the lege drops the ball, that tells us where he and they stand. If he doesn't put it on the agenda that still tells us where he stands, and more clearly than a million campaign speaches and pithy sound bites.

Re: Special Session -- 2013

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:59 pm
by TexasCajun
I'm not sure if this bodes well for our cause or if it's just a false hope, but the only mention of the special session on the radio this morning concerned campus carry & nothing else.