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Dadtodabone wrote:Does anyone know what the planned route is for this march? Are they using River Oaks Blvd(which is 4 lanes and divided) or will they be marching up and down the residential streets(30' wide)?

My understanding is that they intend to gather near River Oaks Shopping Center on West Gray, walk west where it turns into Inwood at S. Shepherd, continue west on Inwood to Kirby, turn south one block to Del Monte, then east on Del Monte and back to the start on West Gray either by turning north on S. Shepherd or continuing on to Peden St. and turning north at McDuffie.

Thanks Skiprr, that doesn't seem to have as big an impact on the folks as I feared. I have older relatives(well family friends, though we've been calling them aunt and uncle for 60 years) west of River Oaks Blvd on Del Monte.
We occasionally have coffee of a Sunday morning after Mass at the B&N while the grands and great grands spend their Uncle Pete's money on dead tree products. Not this Sunday though.

Carry-a-Kimber wrote:

jl39775 wrote:

PBratton wrote:Wonder how he'd feel if we did something like that in his neighborhood?

Where does he live anyway?

Maybe he lives in River Oaks with all the money he takes

He lives in Bender's Landing in Sping.

Wait, Quanell lives in a community with an average home value of $675,000 and plenty that top $1 million? Why aren't his followers marching in his neighborhood?

Skiprr wrote:In the fourth largest city in the US (hovering on the third largest), the River Oaks community is the most exclusive residential area. With multimillion dollar properties and the River Oaks Country Club and the home of the tennis U.S. Men's Clay Court Championships.

Anybody remember the bad old days, 30+ years ago, when the "River Oaks Police Department" (not real police, a private security company that drove cars just like HPD, wore uniforms just like HPD, etc.) would do traffic stops of anybody who dared to drive around the neighborhood in a crappy car? And HPD would back 'em up, to boot, despite the fact that they were using illegal flashing lights and impersonating HPD? River Oaks is a shining example of the fact that money buys power.

I think QX is crazy to be protesting at all but I can certainly understand the symbolism of doing it in River Oaks. If you want to complain that the power structure is corrupt, go where power lives.

Skiprr wrote:

Dadtodabone wrote:Does anyone know what the planned route is for this march? Are they using River Oaks Blvd(which is 4 lanes and divided) or will they be marching up and down the residential streets(30' wide)?

My understanding is that they intend to gather near River Oaks Shopping Center on West Gray, walk west where it turns into Inwood at S. Shepherd, continue west on Inwood to Kirby, turn south one block to Del Monte, then east on Del Monte and back to the start on West Gray either by turning north on S. Shepherd or continuing on to Peden St. and turning north at McDuffie.

I would hope they are all using the city bus to this location. They will need lots of cash to pay for towing if they park in the wrong parking lot.

that would be terrible!!

But I doubt anybody would get towed... That'd be racist.

howdy wrote:

Skiprr wrote:

Dadtodabone wrote:Does anyone know what the planned route is for this march? Are they using River Oaks Blvd(which is 4 lanes and divided) or will they be marching up and down the residential streets(30' wide)?

My understanding is that they intend to gather near River Oaks Shopping Center on West Gray, walk west where it turns into Inwood at S. Shepherd, continue west on Inwood to Kirby, turn south one block to Del Monte, then east on Del Monte and back to the start on West Gray either by turning north on S. Shepherd or continuing on to Peden St. and turning north at McDuffie.

I would hope they are all using the city bus to this location. They will need lots of cash to pay for towing if they park in the wrong parking lot.

benenglishtx wrote:If you want to complain that the power structure is corrupt, go where power lives.

So they'll be boarding buses at River Oaks that will wisk them to Georgetown or DuPont Circle?

Dadtodabone wrote:

benenglishtx wrote:If you want to complain that the power structure is corrupt, go where power lives.

So they'll be boarding buses at River Oaks that will wisk them to Georgetown or DuPont Circle?

Good one.

Skiprr wrote:

Dadtodabone wrote:Does anyone know what the planned route is for this march? Are they using River Oaks Blvd(which is 4 lanes and divided) or will they be marching up and down the residential streets(30' wide)?

My understanding is that they intend to gather near River Oaks Shopping Center on West Gray, walk west where it turns into Inwood at S. Shepherd, continue west on Inwood to Kirby, turn south one block to Del Monte, then east on Del Monte and back to the start on West Gray either by turning north on S. Shepherd or continuing on to Peden St. and turning north at McDuffie.

That would be all wrong. That would be River Oaks Junior. Those are the cheap houses, most under 2 million.

A much better route would be to start at Lamar High School. (probably could park there legally and assemble there legally, if we are worried about that sort of thing) Then cross Westheimer and head down River Oaks Boulevard and turn around at River Oaks Country Club and back. Those are all 6 million dollar homes along River Oaks Boulevard.

Gosh if its at River Oaks Shopping Center. You could watch from the second floor of Barnes and Noble with a Starbucks.

philip964 wrote:That would be all wrong. That would be River Oaks Junior. Those are the cheap houses, most under 2 million.

A much better route would be to start at Lamar High School. (probably could park there legally and assemble there legally, if we are worried about that sort of thing) Then cross Westheimer and head down River Oaks Boulevard and turn around at River Oaks Country Club and back. Those are all 6 million dollar homes along River Oaks Boulevard.

Gosh if its at River Oaks Shopping Center. You could watch from the second floor of Barnes and Noble with a Starbucks.

I agree, that is the logical route to "march" in River Oaks and my thoughts on the matter prompted my question on the proposed route. Mr. X apparently doesn't care to rock the big boats by leading his troupe into the center of the community. I'm thinking he might have received some form of "honorarium" to wander the east end of the neighborhood and terrorize the RO merchants and their patrons.

This says Wiley Park which is quite a ways from River Oaks. The're going to have a very long walk to get to River Oaks.

Most of the march will be in Montrose along West Gray. For those not familiar with Houston, Councilman Frank Mann was quoted that Montrose is where the "queers and odd wads" lived. Asked what an "odd wad" was. He said that in reloading shotgun shells occasionally there would be a wad that would not fit. That was an odd wad and it was thrown away. They do not make colorful politicians like that any more.

If they do follow the route in RO posted earlier, that's about 5 miles round trip from Wiley Park. 4 miles of it on a heavily trafficked road in a retail/commercial corridor. 4 p.m. peak heat of the day, high humidity, thunder storms, this will be interesting on many levels.

philip964 wrote:This says Wiley Park which is quite a ways from River Oaks. The're going to have a very long walk to get to River Oaks.

More to the point, it doesn't even mention River Oaks. QX isn't stupid. Announcing a march on River Oaks gets publicity. Why should he bother to actually go to River Oaks, once he's gotten the publicity he seeks?

This is hypocrisy overload...and a bunch of other terms that I won't use in polite conversation.

Ahh. Wiley Park is on the boundary of the Fourth Ward. This is the location of historic Freedman's Town, which is where newly freed slaves resided in Houston after the civil war.

This would be a fitting location for the start of the march.

In the last few years, those pesky Generation X or Y types have been moving in and building McTownhouses, which has changed the character of the area. If I remember now there was a lot of complaints that there should be a law against that happening, since it was spoiling the historic character of the area. Generation X or Y didn't want 150 year old, 400 sf houses and Freedmen didn't mind selling for big bucks either.

I'm sure the new owners of Freedman's town are real happy about all this too.

philip964 wrote:A much better route would be to start at Lamar High School. (probably could park there legally and assemble there legally, if we are worried about that sort of thing) Then cross Westheimer and head down River Oaks Boulevard and turn around at River Oaks Country Club and back. Those are all 6 million dollar homes along River Oaks Boulevard.

That would make more sense, especially when we remember Blacks and Jews were denied membership to the River Oaks Country Club for much of its history. Even now, despite officially being open to all races and creeds, I would be surprised if many Blacks make it off the waiting list.