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ATDM wrote: That's a reasonable way of doing things. However, I have been to the hospital with my wife at least two dozen times, and I can't figure out, where their main entrance is for sure. There are places that look like they might be main entrances, but I can't be sure... None of them had the sign so far...

Keith B wrote:

ATDM wrote: That's a reasonable way of doing things. However, I have been to the hospital with my wife at least two dozen times, and I can't figure out, where their main entrance is for sure. There are places that look like they might be main entrances, but I can't be sure... None of them had the sign so far...

Go through any entrance necessary. Until you know the hospital, business, location is posted, then you have not received effective notice via a 30.06 sign. If you conceal properly, the chances of being discovered are slim to none and Slim left town.

TexasCajun wrote:

howdy wrote:I have had my CHL since 1997 and lived in the same house for the past 34 years. I know ALL the places in my area that are posted 30.06 and I just don't go there. We are lucky in Texas that very few places choose to post that stupid sign. They are smart enough to know that the sign only applies to law abiding people and not to criminals. There are exceptions, but most places that post have very visable signs. I find the 51% sign more problematic. My wife loves to go out to eat and we try all different types of restaurants all over Houston. I usually find the 51% sign up behind the bar in the restaurant AFTER we have been seated and ordered.

Restaurants don't qualify as 51% establishments. The food sales typically account for about 2/3 of a restaurant's total sales (on average). If you do see a 51% sign in a restaurant, it's likely an improper posting since TABC often sends both signs to a business with instructions on which one to post. The most reliable determination of a 51% location that I've found is to go directly to the TABC website.

SewTexas wrote: the 51% sign should be in the "bar" area and would only apply to the bar area, not the restaurant area.

SewTexas wrote:
a 51% sign means that an establishment makes the majority of their money from alcohol sales. that's one of the reasons why restaurants separate the bar area, they file is as a different biz. the taxes and licenses are different. just don't get seated in that area....if they ask if you would like to be seated there, sometimes it's quicker, tell them you would prefer not to, it's too noisy, in some towns they still allow smoking. someone can clarify, I think it's the whole bar room, it may just be the physical bar? it may depend on the restaurant so stay safe on that.

SewTexas wrote:a 51% sign means that an establishment makes the majority of their money from alcohol sales. that's one of the reasons why restaurants separate the bar area, they file is as a different biz. the taxes and licenses are different. just don't get seated in that area....if they ask if you would like to be seated there, sometimes it's quicker, tell them you would prefer not to, it's too noisy, in some towns they still allow smoking. someone can clarify, I think it's the whole bar room, it may just be the physical bar? it may depend on the restaurant so stay safe on that.

ATDM wrote:

jmra wrote:Just curious, why do you think anyone would "recognize" that you are carrying?

Obviously, it is extremely unlikely that you'd get spotted, but flukes do happen, not to mention that I wouldn't want to break the law by carrying in places, where it's prohibited.

I disagree with the sentiment that I need to be mindful of people's feelings and opinions about CHL, when I carry. I am exercising my right, and I am prepared to defend my family and myself (in certain circumstances — others). They won't know that I am carrying. If they do, then I am not concealing it. And if they don't know it, it won't bother them. I am not going to be rubbing the nose of my anti-gun friends in the fact that I carry, but I AM going to carry it AT ALL TIMES AND IN ALL PLACES, whenever and wherever it's legal. I am not going to create "carry" days and "no carry" days on my calendar.

I disagree with the notion that I need to carry only when I expect something to happen. I am not going to ponder and consider others' opinion about CHL before walking out of my house with the gun. This is not what it's all about. I don't stop believing in my God, if someone is against my beliefs. I don't force them on anyone, but I continue to believe. I will not force my opinions about the 2nd Amendment on anyone, but I will continue to carry... ALWAYS. People's level of tolerance toward guns is not going to factor into my decision to carry or not to carry at all. Just like people tolerance toward my faith is not going to affect my faith.

I don't even fully understand, how my concealed carry would affect people with anti-gun sentiments, and why I need to worry about that at all.

That's just my $0.02...

TexasCajun wrote:

SewTexas wrote:a 51% sign means that an establishment makes the majority of their money from alcohol sales. that's one of the reasons why restaurants separate the bar area, they file is as a different biz. the taxes and licenses are different. just don't get seated in that area....if they ask if you would like to be seated there, sometimes it's quicker, tell them you would prefer not to, it's too noisy, in some towns they still allow smoking. someone can clarify, I think it's the whole bar room, it may just be the physical bar? it may depend on the restaurant so stay safe on that.

The vast majority of restaurants in Texas do not isolate their bar business. Take a quick spin through the TABC website & you'll see what I mean.

Even if you see a 51% sign in a restaurant, it's most likely an improper posting.

android wrote:I see it as wearing purple lacy underwear. Nobody should ever know but me and my wife!

ATDM wrote:

jmra wrote:Just curious, why do you think anyone would "recognize" that you are carrying?

Obviously, it is extremely unlikely that you'd get spotted, but flukes do happen, not to mention that I wouldn't want to break the law by carrying in places, where it's prohibited.

I disagree with the sentiment that I need to be mindful of people's feelings and opinions about CHL, when I carry. I am exercising my right, and I am prepared to defend my family and myself (in certain circumstances — others). They won't know that I am carrying. If they do, then I am not concealing it. And if they don't know it, it won't bother them. I am not going to be rubbing the nose of my anti-gun friends in the fact that I carry, but I AM going to carry it AT ALL TIMES AND IN ALL PLACES, whenever and wherever it's legal. I am not going to create "carry" days and "no carry" days on my calendar.

I disagree with the notion that I need to carry only when I expect something to happen. I am not going to ponder and consider others' opinion about CHL before walking out of my house with the gun. This is not what it's all about. I don't stop believing in my God, if someone is against my beliefs. I don't force them on anyone, but I continue to believe. I will not force my opinions about the 2nd Amendment on anyone, but I will continue to carry... ALWAYS. People's level of tolerance toward guns is not going to factor into my decision to carry or not to carry at all. Just like people tolerance toward my faith is not going to affect my faith.

I don't even fully understand, how my concealed carry would affect people with anti-gun sentiments, and why I need to worry about that at all.

That's just my $0.02...

android wrote:

ATDM wrote:

jmra wrote:Just curious, why do you think anyone would "recognize" that you are carrying?

Obviously, it is extremely unlikely that you'd get spotted, but flukes do happen, not to mention that I wouldn't want to break the law by carrying in places, where it's prohibited.

I disagree with the sentiment that I need to be mindful of people's feelings and opinions about CHL, when I carry. I am exercising my right, and I am prepared to defend my family and myself (in certain circumstances — others). They won't know that I am carrying. If they do, then I am not concealing it. And if they don't know it, it won't bother them. I am not going to be rubbing the nose of my anti-gun friends in the fact that I carry, but I AM going to carry it AT ALL TIMES AND IN ALL PLACES, whenever and wherever it's legal. I am not going to create "carry" days and "no carry" days on my calendar.

I disagree with the notion that I need to carry only when I expect something to happen. I am not going to ponder and consider others' opinion about CHL before walking out of my house with the gun. This is not what it's all about. I don't stop believing in my God, if someone is against my beliefs. I don't force them on anyone, but I continue to believe. I will not force my opinions about the 2nd Amendment on anyone, but I will continue to carry... ALWAYS. People's level of tolerance toward guns is not going to factor into my decision to carry or not to carry at all. Just like people tolerance toward my faith is not going to affect my faith.

I don't even fully understand, how my concealed carry would affect people with anti-gun sentiments, and why I need to worry about that at all.

That's just my $0.02...

I agree with your outlook.

I see it as wearing purple lacy underwear. Nobody should ever know but me and my wife!
In theory, nobody should care if I come into their hospital, store or whatever wearing purple lacy underwear if I keep my shirt pulled down and don't show them off.

It's always better to have purple lacy underwear and not need them than to need them and not have them!

brhalltx wrote:

android wrote:I see it as wearing purple lacy underwear. Nobody should ever know but me and my wife!

Now everybody knows.