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txinvestigator wrote:

Right2Carry wrote:

phddan wrote:For comfort, the ankle rig would be better, imo, while your laying and rolling on the floor.

IMHO carrying into someones home who is a customer is just bad business. I would think most businesses that sent out repair reps ECT... would have a no gun policy in effect for entering a customers home. I don't care about them leaving it in the vehicle, but I don't want someone I don't know entering my home with a loaded gun. I have no idea what kind of training that person has, and a AD in my home from someone performing a service that I am paying for is going to amount to a huge lawsuit on someone.

Family or friends that I know is one thing, a person performing a service is quite another animal all together. I can't imagine a business allowing thier employees to go armed into a private citizens home to perform work. IMHO it is not a good idea.

Sounds like you need to post the 30.06 sign at your front door, or verbally tell people that they dont have the right to protect themselves in you abode.

Dan

Being invited to someones home as a friend and going to a house to perform a service are two entirely different things. I am not really sure how the law looks at this, nor am I so sure that a 30.06 posting or a verbal warning is required for someone entering your home as a repairman.

I guess some research is in order on this.

Of course a 30.06 or verbal notice is required to legally prohibit you from carrying into a customers home. The law is the law, and it is clear.

I am curious as to WHY you think it is not appropriate for a repairman to carry into a home. Please be specific.

Right2Carry wrote:

txinvestigator wrote:

Right2Carry wrote:

phddan wrote:For comfort, the ankle rig would be better, imo, while your laying and rolling on the floor.

IMHO carrying into someones home who is a customer is just bad business. I would think most businesses that sent out repair reps ECT... would have a no gun policy in effect for entering a customers home. I don't care about them leaving it in the vehicle, but I don't want someone I don't know entering my home with a loaded gun. I have no idea what kind of training that person has, and a AD in my home from someone performing a service that I am paying for is going to amount to a huge lawsuit on someone.

Family or friends that I know is one thing, a person performing a service is quite another animal all together. I can't imagine a business allowing thier employees to go armed into a private citizens home to perform work. IMHO it is not a good idea.

Sounds like you need to post the 30.06 sign at your front door, or verbally tell people that they dont have the right to protect themselves in you abode.

Dan

Being invited to someones home as a friend and going to a house to perform a service are two entirely different things. I am not really sure how the law looks at this, nor am I so sure that a 30.06 posting or a verbal warning is required for someone entering your home as a repairman.

I guess some research is in order on this.

Of course a 30.06 or verbal notice is required to legally prohibit you from carrying into a customers home. The law is the law, and it is clear.

I am curious as to WHY you think it is not appropriate for a repairman to carry into a home. Please be specific.

I don't think it is appropiate because it is my home. It is not a place of business, it is my personal home, my castle. I also believe it creates the potential for a dangerous situation. Truth be known I never really thought much about it until it was brought up in this forum. I believe most businesses will have a company policy against allowing thier technicians to carry while on a service call. There is a huge liability issue for the company in case of an AD or ND.

I suspect that most people on this forum if they are being truthful would feel the same if all of a sudden they noticed thier repairman carrying a weapon even if its an inadverdent flash.

With that said I guess for some reason I thought that private residence would be protected with the whole my home is my castle thing. It appears that I was wrong, but am glad that I now know what the law says.

The only firearm bearing person I want in my house is myself, family or good friends. I do not want a total stranger carrying a firearm inside my house.

I have been educated now and will act appropiately in the future to prevent repairman from entering my house while armed.

TXI as I said before, this is just my opinion. If someone chooses a line of work that they know will require them to enter peoples homes, ehy that is thier choice. If they think it is too dangerous find other work.

It appears that the law allows this, I on the other hand think it is wrong. We will just have to agree to disagree on this and move on.

txinvestigator wrote:

Right2Carry wrote:

txinvestigator wrote:

Right2Carry wrote:

phddan wrote:For comfort, the ankle rig would be better, imo, while your laying and rolling on the floor.

IMHO carrying into someones home who is a customer is just bad business. I would think most businesses that sent out repair reps ECT... would have a no gun policy in effect for entering a customers home. I don't care about them leaving it in the vehicle, but I don't want someone I don't know entering my home with a loaded gun. I have no idea what kind of training that person has, and a AD in my home from someone performing a service that I am paying for is going to amount to a huge lawsuit on someone.

Family or friends that I know is one thing, a person performing a service is quite another animal all together. I can't imagine a business allowing thier employees to go armed into a private citizens home to perform work. IMHO it is not a good idea.

Sounds like you need to post the 30.06 sign at your front door, or verbally tell people that they dont have the right to protect themselves in you abode.

Dan

Being invited to someones home as a friend and going to a house to perform a service are two entirely different things. I am not really sure how the law looks at this, nor am I so sure that a 30.06 posting or a verbal warning is required for someone entering your home as a repairman.

I guess some research is in order on this.

Of course a 30.06 or verbal notice is required to legally prohibit you from carrying into a customers home. The law is the law, and it is clear.

I am curious as to WHY you think it is not appropriate for a repairman to carry into a home. Please be specific.

I don't think it is appropiate because it is my home. It is not a place of business, it is my personal home, my castle. I also believe it creates the potential for a dangerous situation. Truth be known I never really thought much about it until it was brought up in this forum. I believe most businesses will have a company policy against allowing thier technicians to carry while on a service call. There is a huge liability issue for the company in case of an AD or ND.

I suspect that most people on this forum if they are being truthful would feel the same if all of a sudden they noticed thier repairman carrying a weapon even if its an inadverdent flash.

With that said I guess for some reason I thought that private residence would be protected with the whole my home is my castle thing. It appears that I was wrong, but am glad that I now know what the law says.

The only firearm bearing person I want in my house is myself, family or good friends. I do not want a total stranger carrying a firearm inside my house.

I have been educated now and will act appropiately in the future to prevent repairman from entering my house while armed.

TXI as I said before, this is just my opinion. If someone chooses a line of work that they know will require them to enter peoples homes, ehy that is thier choice. If they think it is too dangerous find other work.

It appears that the law allows this, I on the other hand think it is wrong. We will just have to agree to disagree on this and move on.

I appreciate your polite honesty.

I would have no problem with a CHL holder carrying inside my house. As far as he knows, I am a serial killer and he is my next victim, or a home invader intent on killing all could enter while he is inside, or......., basically all of the same reasons I carry in my home would apply to him while he is in my home.

And by his having a CHL I know he is not a criminal. You don't know that about other repairmen in your home.

Heck, I might even find myself a new shooting buddy.

llwatson wrote:Anyone who wants to come into my house to perform any service is gonna have a company ID, and I am gonna ask to see it.

If you don't have a company issued picture ID, or if you don't look like the picture on your ID badge, then you aren't invited in.

I don't think it is appropiate because it is my home. It is not a place of business, it is my personal home, my castle. I also believe it creates the potential for a dangerous situation. Truth be known I never really thought much about it until it was brought up in this forum. I believe most businesses will have a company policy against allowing thier technicians to carry while on a service call. There is a huge liability issue for the company in case of an AD or ND.

I suspect that most people on this forum if they are being truthful would feel the same if all of a sudden they noticed thier repairman carrying a weapon even if its an inadverdent flash.

With that said I guess for some reason I thought that private residence would be protected with the whole my home is my castle thing. It appears that I was wrong, but am glad that I now know what the law says.

The only firearm bearing person I want in my house is myself, family or good friends. I do not want a total stranger carrying a firearm inside my house.

I have been educated now and will act appropiately in the future to prevent repairman from entering my house while armed.

TXI as I said before, this is just my opinion. If someone chooses a line of work that they know will require them to enter peoples homes, ehy that is thier choice. If they think it is too dangerous find other work.

It appears that the law allows this, I on the other hand think it is wrong. We will just have to agree to disagree on this and move on.
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Right2Carry wrote:I don't think all companies issue pictured ID's, although it is becoming more the norm. Actually I think that from now on I will ask what the policy of the company is before I decide to give them my business, that way I know up front what to expect. My guess is that 95% of companies prohibit carrying into a home owners house.

BrassMonkey wrote:There are only two reasons a person would be carrying a concealed weapon.

1. LEO
2. CHL holder - Note the first letter of the abbreviation - C = CONCEALED

If he is a LEO, say who has a side business as a plumber, he has no business carrying open while not in direct execution of his OFFICIAL duties as a LEO.

The only way for a repairman to be legal is to be a CHL holder. If I see his weapon, he broke the law or at the very least made a BIG mistake, either in decision to carry in my home or in his methods of concealment.... Remember, this is in my home. MY HOME, My castle, my abode, my whatever...

It would never hit the papers unless we danced. If he is legal, I buy the guy a beer and/or buy him some ammo. If he is not, there is another win for CHL's in Texas...

I apologize if this is not the popular opinion around here, but you know what they say opinions are like......

Right2Carry wrote: How would you determine that the tech or repairman coming to your house is indeed a CHL holder and not someone intent on doing your harm?