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nightmare69 wrote:Made a 97.5 on our big test over week material and made a 90 on the spelling test, I suck at spelling. The one question I missed was this...

Who is the most responsible for upholding the rights of the people>

A. Congress

B. Police Officers

C. Courts

D. D. A.'s office

I chose Congress and got it wrong, it was LEOs. They ask who was MOST responsible and IMO its our elected officials on Capital hill. If they continue to represent the people of the US then they must honor their oath to uphold the constitution. I guess Im wrong though.

It's LEO's because they exercise government authority at the point where it directly impacts citizens. If local police abuse authority and fail to respect the civil rights of citizens, it doesn't matter what Congress does because most people don't live in the Capitol.

Excaliber wrote:

nightmare69 wrote:Made a 97.5 on our big test over week material and made a 90 on the spelling test, I suck at spelling. The one question I missed was this...

Who is the most responsible for upholding the rights of the people>

A. Congress

B. Police Officers

C. Courts

D. D. A.'s office

I chose Congress and got it wrong, it was LEOs. They ask who was MOST responsible and IMO its our elected officials on Capital hill. If they continue to represent the people of the US then they must honor their oath to uphold the constitution. I guess Im wrong though.

It's LEO's because they exercise government authority at the point where it directly impacts citizens. If local police abuse authority and fail to respect the civil rights of citizens, it doesn't matter what Congress does because most people don't live in the Capitol.

Consider the three branches of government. Congress is the legislative. They just write the laws. Law enforcement is part of the judicial branch. Judicial upholds the laws.

Because it's the LEO'S responsibility to uphold the rights of the citizens is why so many take such an offense when they don't or they use technicalities to skirt around our rights. Good to hear some of what they teach. Wish all leos would stick to it.

I gotcha, thanks for clearing it up. Other news, started Code of Criminal Procedure today, very exciting.

healthinsp wrote:Consider the three branches of government. Congress is the legislative. They just write the laws. Law enforcement is part of the judicial branch. Judicial upholds the laws.

Just for technical accuracy, the police are part of the executive branch. The legislative branch writes the laws, the executive branch enforces (or executes) the laws, and the judicial branch settles disputes based on the laws (well that seems like the best description I can come up with on a moments notice).

srothstein wrote:

healthinsp wrote:Consider the three branches of government. Congress is the legislative. They just write the laws. Law enforcement is part of the judicial branch. Judicial upholds the laws.

Just for technical accuracy, the police are part of the executive branch. The legislative branch writes the laws, the executive branch enforces (or executes) the laws, and the judicial branch settles disputes based on the laws (well that seems like the best description I can come up with on a moments notice).

Thank you, Steve. I knew that but was hesitant to uh, er.....well because....you know.

Got 2 more tests on Monday over spelling list 3 and CCP/Arrest, Search, and Seizure. I got alot of studying to do this weekend.

srothstein wrote:

healthinsp wrote:Consider the three branches of government. Congress is the legislative. They just write the laws. Law enforcement is part of the judicial branch. Judicial upholds the laws.

Just for technical accuracy, the police are part of the executive branch. The legislative branch writes the laws, the executive branch enforces (or executes) the laws, and the judicial branch settles disputes based on the laws (well that seems like the best description I can come up with on a moments notice).

A short, but accurate description.

Do you feel like you are drinking from a fire hose? Do you think most is sticking and is it a manageable amount of information?

mojo84 wrote:Do you feel like you are drinking from a fire hose? Do you think most is sticking and is it a manageable amount of information?

Do they just give tests based on reading and studying or are they giving class room teaching where they cover the subject material?

Congradation on the test. great achievment, Now the fun part begins, The practical training.

If your academy is like mine, although mine was 7 1/2 months long, we did study for the first several months before we did the fun stuff like driving, kung fu, ect. The range was fun, but very very basic.

mojo84 wrote:Do you feel like you are drinking from a fire hose? Do you think most is sticking and is it a manageable amount of information?

Its alot to take in, for example CCP is 594 pages of law and we covered it in 4 days. Granted we didn't go through all of it, just the stuff that TCOLE said we needed to know and it was alot. Are they just ramming information down our throats? No. Its a lot of info but the instructors are former LEOs and they give real world examples to help us understand this law that is written in Greek. TCOLE only requires 640hrs with a 70% or better grade and pass a state test to be a licensed peace officer. ETPA requires 720hrs and a grade of 80% or better just to take the state test. We have 18 weeks to learn the law and learn firearms, arrests, and everything else required to be a LEO. I know attorneys who have practiced law for 20yrs and when you ask them a question they crack open a law book. I will always be learning and training in this field, Im pretty sharp and retain a lot of what I learn.

WildBill wrote:Do they just give tests based on reading and studying or are they giving class room teaching where they cover the subject material?

The test cover everything from what is in the law book, study guides, our notes we take during lectures, powerpoint presentations, reviews, ect. Next week after the 2 tests Monday we start Penal Code, Im sure we will all be on the edge of our seats. Arrests/Search/Seizures was fun though, learned alot.

FL450 wrote:Congradation on the test. great achievment, Now the fun part begins, The practical training.

A few more weeks of law then we move on to firearms, driving fast with our twinkle lights on.

texanjoker wrote:If your academy is like mine, although mine was 7 1/2 months long, we did study for the first several months before we did the fun stuff like driving, kung fu, ect. The range was fun, but very very basic.

Yes this is a basic peace officer course, did you do night classes? I know San Antonio's academy is 32 weeks, DPS academy in Austin is 25 weeks.

texanjoker wrote:If your academy is like mine, although mine was 7 1/2 months long, we did study for the first several months before we did the fun stuff like driving, kung fu, ect. The range was fun, but very very basic.

Yes this is a basic peace officer course, did you do night classes? I know San Antonio's academy is 32 weeks, DPS academy in Austin is 25 weeks.[/quote]


No I attended a full time Monday - Friday academy, over 900 hours, but it was in CA. That is why states like TX readily accept a transfer because our training was so extensive where they won't take some other states due to the minimal training standard. Don't fret the laws. After you pass, we all know where to find the law to review it. I have a book and laptop with easy access to all the codes I need. Nobody is going to know it all and all those videos floating around with kooks attacking a cop who doesn't have this or that memorized are bonkers. You may find the pleasure some day of dealing with one as I have . Just remember the foundations as written in our constitution and you will be ok. It's always better to err on the side of caution and let a guilty person go then arrest an innocent one with bogus PC.