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Re: Drug death that any of us could suffer
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 2:45 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
tbrown wrote:A tragic reminder that drug interaction warnings should be followed even if we never had a bad reaction before. Something I'm guilty of myself. Prayers for your daughter's friend and the family.
Thank you and I absolutely agree. It has me checking my prescriptions. I went to my Dr. Last week for a check up on a fat boy prescription to lose weight. He gave me this stuff last month. It curbs my appetite. I had no idea the stuff was a derivative of methamphetamine! He refilled it but I am afraid to take the stuff now. I'm also on blood pressure meds. It gets better. I have been getting dry itchy skin due to our unusually cold weather. He tells me it is a mild case of eczema and gives me a prescription for three days of prednisone. So now I am in possession of speeders to help me lose weight, steroids to make my itching stop, hydrocodone for my back pain, Ativan in case all the other crap makes it hard to sleep and Xanax to help calm my nerves in case the combination of speed and steroids makes me edgy! And let's not forget I have Topral to keep my blood pressure in control while taking medications that actually increase my blood pressure.
Come on, you have to wonder what the heck! I realize he is just trying to help but what if I were to combine all this stuff? After all, it is prescribed by my doctor. It should be safe. Right?
Yeah... It's easy for me to understand how a person can get themselves into trouble with perfectly legal prescribed medications.
Re: Drug death that any of us could suffer
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 3:00 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
mamabearCali wrote:Lost a most beloved uncle to liver failure from prolonged use of Tylenol. Nothing too serious, nothing unbelievable, 200 mg twice a day for minor back pain everyday for 20 years= dead at 42.
So sorry for your friends loss. It is so hard to lose someone, but so unexpectedly is even harder.
My daughter had some minor eye surgery ten days ago. They gave her a few hydrocodones for the pain. The formulation seemed odd to me. They were 5/350. It use to be 5/750. I asked the dr about it. She told us they have changed all the formulas to reduce the amount of the Tylenol due to the very issue you brought up. Sorry about the loss of your uncle. Sad it takes so many years for them to figure out a drug as innocent as Tylenol may be slowly killing us.
Re: Drug death that any of us could suffer
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 3:09 pm
by SewTexas
03Lightningrocks wrote:tbrown wrote:A tragic reminder that drug interaction warnings should be followed even if we never had a bad reaction before. Something I'm guilty of myself. Prayers for your daughter's friend and the family.
Thank you and I absolutely agree. It has me checking my prescriptions. I went to my Dr. Last week for a check up on a fat boy prescription to lose weight. He gave me this stuff last month. It curbs my appetite. I had no idea the stuff was a derivative of methamphetamine! He refilled it but I am afraid to take the stuff now. I'm also on blood pressure meds. It gets better. I have been getting dry itchy skin due to our unusually cold weather. He tells me it is a mild case of eczema and gives me a prescription for three days of prednisone. So now I am in possession of speeders to help me lose weight, steroids to make my itching stop, hydrocodone for my back pain, Ativan in case all the other crap makes it hard to sleep and Xanax to help calm my nerves in case the combination of speed and steroids makes me edgy! And let's not forget I have Topral to keep my blood pressure in control while taking medications that actually increase my blood pressure.
Come on, you have to wonder what the heck! I realize he is just trying to help but what if I were to combine all this stuff? After all, it is prescribed by my doctor. It should be safe. Right?
Yeah... It's easy for me to understand how a person can get themselves into trouble with perfectly legal prescribed medications.
honestly, I know this will sound slightly hokey, but if you have problems going to sleep....before you try the meds, (and this is one you don't need to run past the docs) go to your Good Stuff, or whatever healthy place you have, and get some lavender oil spray, you can get some at Bath and Body Works, but it will have other stuff in it. Spray the oil on your pillowcase, you will be asleep within 10 minutes. Also, was reading a little study, can't remember where, that Lavendar Oil capsules are just as good if not better than Atavan, I found that really interesting.
Re: Drug death that any of us could suffer
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 3:19 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
That is interesting. I may give that a shot. My sleeping problems are self induced. I get to thinking about work and other things that keep my mind racing. Part of the story I should not have left out is that these meds were not all given on the same visit. The steroids and the diet pills were, but that other stuff, other than my blood pressure meds, was accumulated over a couple year period. He probably has no idea I have all these meds in my safe. That is the part of the story I believe is very common. I bet many of us in here have prescriptions for this or that we keep around after the original ailment went away.
Re: Drug death that any of us could suffer
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 3:34 pm
by tbrown
When I had a kidney stone, I used all the Tamsulosin and antibiotics as directed, but used less than half the bottle of Vicodin.
Re: Drug death that any of us could suffer
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:45 pm
by WildBill
03Lightningrocks wrote:mamabearCali wrote:Lost a most beloved uncle to liver failure from prolonged use of Tylenol. Nothing too serious, nothing unbelievable, 200 mg twice a day for minor back pain everyday for 20 years= dead at 42.
So sorry for your friends loss. It is so hard to lose someone, but so unexpectedly is even harder.
My daughter had some minor eye surgery ten days ago. They gave her a few hydrocodones for the pain. The formulation seemed odd to me. They were 5/350. It use to be 5/750. I asked the dr about it. She told us they have changed all the formulas to reduce the amount of the Tylenol due to the very issue you brought up. Sorry about the loss of your uncle. Sad it takes so many years for them to figure out a drug as innocent as Tylenol may be slowly killing us.
There is such a thing as Vicoprofen. I don't know why it isn't prescribed more.
Re: Drug death that any of us could suffer
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:56 pm
by bigbang
There's a theory the combination with acetaminophen is less likely to be abused because of the danger. I think the theory gives addicts too much credit for careful consideration of the consequences of their drug abuse.
Re: Drug death that any of us could suffer
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:59 pm
by WildBill
bigbang wrote:There's a theory the combination with acetaminophen is less likely to be abused because of the danger. I think the theory gives addicts too much credit for careful consideration of the consequences of their drug abuse.
That's a pretty lame theory. It probably just leads to their livers being damaged sooner.
Re: Drug death that any of us could suffer
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:46 am
by 03Lightningrocks
WildBill wrote:bigbang wrote:There's a theory the combination with acetaminophen is less likely to be abused because of the danger. I think the theory gives addicts too much credit for careful consideration of the consequences of their drug abuse.
That's a pretty lame theory. It probably just leads to their livers being damaged sooner.
I am not real sure what the reasoning was. I always thought it was because acetaminophen is a pain reliever and the two working in conjunction is more affective than either by itself. When I was in my 20's I broke three ribs. I went to emergency room and they took an X-ray, told me I broke three ribs and to go home, stay still and wait for them to heal. They gave me 800 mg ibuprofin!
There has been pressure put on them by the FDA due to people on prolonged pain medication suffering liver damage. This was the reason for the recent reformulation to less acetaminophen in hydrocodone (norco).
Re: Drug death that any of us could suffer
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:50 am
by WildBill
03Lightningrocks wrote:WildBill wrote:bigbang wrote:There's a theory the combination with acetaminophen is less likely to be abused because of the danger. I think the theory gives addicts too much credit for careful consideration of the consequences of their drug abuse.
That's a pretty lame theory. It probably just leads to their livers being damaged sooner.
I am not real sure what the reasoning was. I always thought it was because acetaminophen is a pain reliever and the two working in conjunction is more affective than either by itself. When I was in my 20's I broke three ribs. I went to emergency room and they took an X-ray, told me I broke three ribs and to go home, stay still and wait for them to heal. They gave me 800 mg ibuprofin!
There has been pressure put on them by the FDA due to people on prolonged pain medication suffering liver damage. This was the reason for the recent reformulation to less acetaminophen in hydrocodone (norco).
The combination of the two is probably more effective at reliving pain than just the hydrocodone, but I think the main reason is to minimize the dose of narcotic that you have to take.
About your ibuprofen; that used to be prescription only when it came out as Motrin. In fact the 800 mg still is. I have always thought that was really stupid.
Re: Drug death that any of us could suffer
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:35 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
WildBill wrote:03Lightningrocks wrote:WildBill wrote:bigbang wrote:There's a theory the combination with acetaminophen is less likely to be abused because of the danger. I think the theory gives addicts too much credit for careful consideration of the consequences of their drug abuse.
That's a pretty lame theory. It probably just leads to their livers being damaged sooner.
I am not real sure what the reasoning was. I always thought it was because acetaminophen is a pain reliever and the two working in conjunction is more affective than either by itself. When I was in my 20's I broke three ribs. I went to emergency room and they took an X-ray, told me I broke three ribs and to go home, stay still and wait for them to heal. They gave me 800 mg ibuprofin!
There has been pressure put on them by the FDA due to people on prolonged pain medication suffering liver damage. This was the reason for the recent reformulation to less acetaminophen in hydrocodone (norco).
The combination of the two is probably more effective at reliving pain than just the hydrocodone, but I think the main reason is to minimize the dose of narcotic that you have to take.
About your ibuprofen; that used to be prescription only when it came out as Motrin. In fact the 800 mg still is. I have always thought that was really stupid.
Re: Drug death that any of us could suffer
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 1:08 pm
by gringo pistolero
It's the same for Zantac. Lower dosage is OTC. If you need a higher dosage you can get it Rx. Or take more OTC.
Our tax dollars at work.
Re: Drug death that any of us could suffer
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 2:55 pm
by WildBill
gringo pistolero wrote:It's the same for Zantac. Lower dosage is OTC. If you need a higher dosage you can get it Rx. Or take more OTC.
Our tax dollars at work.
I remember once getting a Rx version because, with the insurance co-pay, it was cheaper than paying the OTC price.
Re: Drug death that any of us could suffer
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:53 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
WildBill wrote:gringo pistolero wrote:It's the same for Zantac. Lower dosage is OTC. If you need a higher dosage you can get it Rx. Or take more OTC.
Our tax dollars at work.
I remember once getting a Rx version because, with the insurance co-pay, it was cheaper than paying the OTC price.
One of my maintenance meds is omeprazole, AKA Prilosec. The over the counter Prilosec cost me 24.00 for a 42 count package. My doctor writes me a prescription and I pay 10 dollar co-pay for sixty pills.