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Some BCG keys are not staked at all - although those might use Loctite.
http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=6993 is a great resource regarding key staking. The idea is to get
enough metal into the head of the bolts to provent their coming loose.

If you buy a BCG where the key is not staked, you have two options: ignore it, or; stake it yourself. Not a huge deal, a good punch and a hammer will get it done.

BTW, staking is important on your lower too. An un-staked castle nut can fail as shown in the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uAiSsJqpD8

carlson1 wrote:
I just bought a Colt 6920 and I have not added anything except a tactical light. It is quickly becoming my favorite. I guess because it is so much lighter than the DD.

I was sad to see it go but I know it found a good home.

Some much for bulding a budget gun..

List so far is as follows

PSA blem safe/fire lower was 76.00 with 10.00 FFL fee. (they were just on sale for 45.00 )
Damage Industries Mil Spec Tube and Enhanced recoil spring shipped (with coupon) 29.10
Anderson Arms LPK with tax 56.00
IKickHippies end plate 20.00

So I am aiming (pun intended) for a Spikes Buffer theres another 40.00

I will probably be on my death bed before I decide on a stock..

I am not complaining. However, I was trying to build my lower complete for under 200.00 lol I could of so I only have myself to blame.

Not to mention I could not jump on PSA completed blem lowers for 149.00 two weeks ago like I wanted. So theres the update so far. Thanks for all the advice.

I got asked the other day about the Anderson Arms part kit so before anyone does. I have NO basis of comparison. Everything fit well and the trigger pull seems fine to me, I can't stand the safety but looks pretty standard with all the other budget stuff. IF I had to do it all over again I would buy a LPK without a trigger group maybe from colt or spikes.

There is a pawn shop in Princeton that sells the LPK can't remember the name. I live in Mckinney if anyone wants to try it out PM me. It is the cheapest LPK out the door I have seen thus far. In terms of price, again no basis of comparison. Other than trigger and safety on other ARs I have fired or heavily petted

Anderson has a good rep. Ya done good. Cosmetics, as in safeties, mellow over time.

DocV wrote:Anderson has a good rep. Ya done good. Cosmetics, as in safeties, mellow over time.

ha ha its a bit more then cosmetics. I think I had it to tight too. I loosened it a bit and it is better. That normal? Thanks for all the PMs doc. I am going to check out those triggers I think on the next build. I keep trying to get myself to just get a 40.00 stock so I am done with it after the buffer. Can't seem to do it for some reason.

1s1k52 wrote: So I am aiming (pun intended) for a Spikes Buffer theres another 40.00

Don't waste your money on the Spikes goofyness. It does nothing that a "normal" mil-spec buffer won't and costs more. I don't know what barrel length and gas system you are going with but a 16" middy or 16" carbine gas system, start with a quality carbine spring and a quality H buffer from someone reputable like Bravo Company (not some mystery gun show or ebay buffer).

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/H-Carbin ... ne%20h.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Carbine- ... action.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Big Bronze Rim wrote:

1s1k52 wrote: So I am aiming (pun intended) for a Spikes Buffer theres another 40.00

Don't waste your money on the Spikes goofyness. It does nothing that a "normal" mil-spec buffer won't and costs more. I don't know what barrel length and gas system you are going with but a 16" middy or 16" carbine gas system, start with a quality carbine spring and a quality H buffer from someone reputable like Bravo Company (not some mystery gun show or ebay buffer).

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/H-Carbin ... ne%20h.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Carbine- ... action.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Not disregarding what you are saying. Do you have experience with both? Everytime I read about the spikes. people seemed to have worked with a lot of buffers and like the spikes.

I have a damage industries enhanced spring man that thing is beefy. I plan to run a midlength until I make this lower a SBR. I was trying to read about the H1 H2 H3 so on and so forth before buying the spikes. The buffer and stock are all I have left to go. For the lower that is.

1s1k52 wrote:

Big Bronze Rim wrote:

1s1k52 wrote: So I am aiming (pun intended) for a Spikes Buffer theres another 40.00

Don't waste your money on the Spikes goofyness. It does nothing that a "normal" mil-spec buffer won't and costs more. I don't know what barrel length and gas system you are going with but a 16" middy or 16" carbine gas system, start with a quality carbine spring and a quality H buffer from someone reputable like Bravo Company (not some mystery gun show or ebay buffer).

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/H-Carbin ... ne%20h.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Carbine- ... action.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Not disregarding what you are saying. Do you have experience with both? Everytime I read about the spikes. people seemed to have worked with a lot of buffers and like the spikes.

I have a damage industries enhanced spring man that thing is beefy. I plan to run a midlength until I make this lower a SBR. I was trying to read about the H1 H2 H3 so on and so forth before buying the spikes. The buffer and stock are all I have left to go. For the lower that is.

What are you trying to achieve with the Spikes buffer? It's somewhere between an H and H2 buffer but its more of a solution looking for a problem. It's likely not going to hurt anything, but don't just buy it because it has a spider on it and some people on afcom said it was great. Start with quality mil spec parts (not to say mil spec is always better) and evaluate your needs then.

Big Bronze Rim wrote:

1s1k52 wrote:

Big Bronze Rim wrote:

1s1k52 wrote: So I am aiming (pun intended) for a Spikes Buffer theres another 40.00

Don't waste your money on the Spikes goofyness. It does nothing that a "normal" mil-spec buffer won't and costs more. I don't know what barrel length and gas system you are going with but a 16" middy or 16" carbine gas system, start with a quality carbine spring and a quality H buffer from someone reputable like Bravo Company (not some mystery gun show or ebay buffer).

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/H-Carbin ... ne%20h.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Carbine- ... action.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Not disregarding what you are saying. Do you have experience with both? Everytime I read about the spikes. people seemed to have worked with a lot of buffers and like the spikes.

I have a damage industries enhanced spring man that thing is beefy. I plan to run a midlength until I make this lower a SBR. I was trying to read about the H1 H2 H3 so on and so forth before buying the spikes. The buffer and stock are all I have left to go. For the lower that is.

What are you trying to achieve with the Spikes buffer? It's somewhere between an H and H2 buffer but its more of a solution looking for a problem. It's likely not going to hurt anything, but don't just buy it because it has a spider on it and some people on afcom said it was great. Start with quality mil spec parts (not to say mil spec is always better) and evaluate your needs then.

just trying to achieve quality and longevity. I personally hate the fact it has a spider on it actually lol. This lower will be rotated between a .223 wylde and a .300 blk

1s1k52 wrote:

DocV wrote:Anderson has a good rep. Ya done good. Cosmetics, as in safeties, mellow over time.

ha ha its a bit more then cosmetics. I think I had it to tight too. I loosened it a bit and it is better. That normal? Thanks for all the PMs doc. I am going to check out those triggers I think on the next build. I keep trying to get myself to just get a 40.00 stock so I am done with it after the buffer. Can't seem to do it for some reason.

Over-gorillaing things with threads? I plead the fifth!
As to stocks, buffers and what not, plan on having a few spares on hand.
BTW, has anyone mentioned Bravo Company?
They have a $25 stock that will get the job done for now and make a really nice addition to your kit.

DocV wrote:

1s1k52 wrote:

DocV wrote:Anderson has a good rep. Ya done good. Cosmetics, as in safeties, mellow over time.

ha ha its a bit more then cosmetics. I think I had it to tight too. I loosened it a bit and it is better. That normal? Thanks for all the PMs doc. I am going to check out those triggers I think on the next build. I keep trying to get myself to just get a 40.00 stock so I am done with it after the buffer. Can't seem to do it for some reason.

Over-gorillaing things with threads? I plead the fifth!
As to stocks, buffers and what not, plan on having a few spares on hand.
BTW, has anyone mentioned Bravo Company?
They have a $25 stock that will get the job done for now and make a really nice addition to your kit.

Lol. I have no idea why I can't just grab one. I am dead set on a acs-l in FDE.


Daughter is having a surgery running about 500-700 out of pocket so far. I tried to tell my wife I don't even like my kids that much. Some how I am still paying for it.

1s1k52 wrote:

DocV wrote:

1s1k52 wrote:

DocV wrote:Anderson has a good rep. Ya done good. Cosmetics, as in safeties, mellow over time.

ha ha its a bit more then cosmetics. I think I had it to tight too. I loosened it a bit and it is better. That normal? Thanks for all the PMs doc. I am going to check out those triggers I think on the next build. I keep trying to get myself to just get a 40.00 stock so I am done with it after the buffer. Can't seem to do it for some reason.

Over-gorillaing things with threads? I plead the fifth!
As to stocks, buffers and what not, plan on having a few spares on hand.
BTW, has anyone mentioned Bravo Company?
They have a $25 stock that will get the job done for now and make a really nice addition to your kit.

Lol. I have no idea why I can't just grab one. I am dead set on a acs-l in FDE.


Daughter is having a surgery running about 500-700 out of pocket so far. I tried to tell my wife I don't even like my kids that much. Some how I am still paying for it.

$500-$700 is nothing. Try paying for flying lessons.

1s1k52 wrote: ...snip...

Lol. I have no idea why I can't just grab one. I am dead set on a acs-l in FDE.


Daughter is having a surgery running about 500-700 out of pocket so far. I tried to tell my wife I don't even like my kids that much. Some how I am still paying for it.

Yer doing it wrong! ChildV is one reason I have so many spare AR parts. She is my shooting buddy and needs to be able to select buffer tubes and stocks from a vast selection. Keep telling yourself and, more importantly, Mrs 1s1k52 that you are buying them for the kids...

Best wishes to your daughter on her surgery.

DocV wrote:

1s1k52 wrote: ...snip...

Lol. I have no idea why I can't just grab one. I am dead set on a acs-l in FDE.


Daughter is having a surgery running about 500-700 out of pocket so far. I tried to tell my wife I don't even like my kids that much. Some how I am still paying for it.

Yer doing it wrong! ChildV is one reason I have so many spare AR parts. She is my shooting buddy and needs to be able to select buffer tubes and stocks from a vast selection. Keep telling yourself and, more importantly, Mrs 1s1k52 that you are buying them for the kids...

Best wishes to your daughter on her surgery.

lol that would maybe work if she wasnt 4! my IKICKHIPPIES end plate came in today. its a dull black/gray unlike all the pictures I have seen showing to match lowers it certainly does not. Kind of bugs me a little. Considering its my first ambi end plate I will say looks like it will function fine and hope my statement holds water.

Here she is not sure why they are turned like that