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Wrong. It is a Class C misdemeanor.VMI77 wrote:Yeah, but a speeding violation is not a criminal act, it's a civil violation.Cedar Park Dad wrote:I don't think you need intent for a speeding violation, just saying.
Honey mooned there. Would not go back, even to "safe areas." The craziness is out of control.
That is what I was taught lo those many years ago.(1978)carlson1 wrote:Wrong. It is a Class C misdemeanor.VMI77 wrote:Yeah, but a speeding violation is not a criminal act, it's a civil violation.Cedar Park Dad wrote:I don't think you need intent for a speeding violation, just saying.
Honey mooned there. Would not go back, even to "safe areas." The craziness is out of control.
Ok, I made a lazy distinction. Call it what you want, but I've been ticketed for speeding in many states and I've never spent one minute in a jail cell as a result. It's a violation that results in a fine, not imprisonment. It also could be argued that it's a act that includes intent, as the only way to speed accidentally is ignore traffic signs or have a broken speedometer. And even those claims to lack intent are dubious since it is easy not to exceed the speed limit even with a broken speedometer or missing a speed limit sign. Mens rea is an important element of the US legal system (what there is left of it anyway):carlson1 wrote:Wrong. It is a Class C misdemeanor.VMI77 wrote:Yeah, but a speeding violation is not a criminal act, it's a civil violation.Cedar Park Dad wrote:I don't think you need intent for a speeding violation, just saying.
Honey mooned there. Would not go back, even to "safe areas." The craziness is out of control.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_reaMens rea (/ˈmɛnz ˈreɪɪə/; Latin for "guilty mind".[1]), in criminal law, is viewed as one of the necessary elements of some crimes. The standard common law test of criminal liability is usually expressed in the Latin phrase, actus reus non facit reum nisi mens sit rea, which means "the act is not culpable unless the mind is guilty". Thus, in jurisdictions with due process, there must be an actus reus, or "guilty act", accompanied by some level of mens rea to constitute the crime with which the defendant is charged (see the technical requirement of concurrence). As a general rule, criminal liability does not attach to a person who merely acted with the absence of mental fault. The exception is strict liability crimes.
That's true for Class C Misdemeanors in general, not just traffic offenses.VMI77 wrote:Ok, I made a lazy distinction. Call it what you want, but I've been ticketed for speeding in many states and I've never spent one minute in a jail cell as a result. It's a violation that results in a fine, not imprisonment.carlson1 wrote:Wrong. It is a Class C misdemeanor.
I disagree. In many parts of Texas, you can drive with the flow of traffic without knowing you're over the posted limit.VMI77 wrote:It also could be argued that it's a act that includes intent, as the only way to speed accidentally is ignore traffic signs or have a broken speedometer.
We used to go about twice a year too.. Honestly I don't understand it.Texsquatch wrote:I absolutely miss going to Nuevo Laredo to shop and eat. We me great restaurants that were as fancy as anything here.
Seriously, driving with the flow prevents you from reading your speedometer? Funny you mention the flow....my college roommate got stopped by a Virginia State cop and told him he was just moving with the flow of traffic. The officer told him it looked more like he was creating the flow, and gave him a ticket.Wolverine wrote:That's true for Class C Misdemeanors in general, not just traffic offenses.VMI77 wrote:Ok, I made a lazy distinction. Call it what you want, but I've been ticketed for speeding in many states and I've never spent one minute in a jail cell as a result. It's a violation that results in a fine, not imprisonment.carlson1 wrote:Wrong. It is a Class C misdemeanor.
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I disagree. In many parts of Texas, you can drive with the flow of traffic without knowing you're over the posted limit.VMI77 wrote:It also could be argued that it's a act that includes intent, as the only way to speed accidentally is ignore traffic signs or have a broken speedometer.
Guess we can't expect good business judgment or choices from psychopathic criminals living in a totally corrupt environment.cb1000rider wrote: Honestly I don't understand it.
When I choose to run my drug empire as part of a mostly-corrupt nation, how does killing civilians help my business? I'm pretty sure I'd have a "don't hurt the tourists" policy.
That's the best explanation so far for what goes on in NYC, DC, Chicago....Jumping Frog wrote:Guess we can't expect good business judgment or choices from psychopathic criminals living in a totally corrupt environment.