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goose wrote:Eventually the question becomes "Is one backup magazine enough or is two better?"

We could all carry more and bigger. I vote to carry the combination that allows you to carry the most. One day may be a 19 one day may be a 43. But that is two days worth of carry which is vastly better than two days not carrying.

John Galt wrote:

RPBrown wrote:I would think that under normal circumstances, 7 would be enough. There is always that chance that you would get into a firefight and need more, but think about the odds of even having to use your weapon. They are slim, however they are growing every day. But the odds of having to use a lot of rounds (15+) are even smaller. With that statement, my EDC is a 1911 of some shape form or fashion, and I usually have a spare magazine if not a BUG of some sort. You never know what the sudden Adrenalin rush can cause.

I have said that 7 rounds should be plenty, unless one thinks that there might be a Gun Fight at OK Corral.

It has never been clear to me why increased magazine capacity in a defensive pistol is particularly choice. The bigger the magazine the bigger the gun, and the bigger the gun the harder it is to get hold of for people with small hands. And what, pray, does one need all those rounds for? How many lethal antagonists do you think you are going to be able to handle? Once when Bruce Nelson was asked by a suspect if the thirteen-round magazine in the P35 was not a big advantage, Bruce's answer was, "Well, yes, if you plan to miss a lot." The highest score I know of at this time achieved by one man against a group of armed adversaries was recorded in (of all places) the Ivory Coast! There, some years ago, a graduate student of mine laid out five goblins, with four dead and one totaled for the hospital. Of course there is the episode of Alvin York and his eight, but there is some dispute about that tale. (If you read it over very carefully you will see what I mean.) Be that as it may, I see no real need for a double column magazine. It is all the rage, of course, and like dual air bags, it is a popular current sales gimmick.

VMI77 wrote:Jeff Cooper:

It has never been clear to me why increased magazine capacity in a defensive pistol is particularly choice. The bigger the magazine the bigger the gun, and the bigger the gun the harder it is to get hold of for people with small hands. And what, pray, does one need all those rounds for? How many lethal antagonists do you think you are going to be able to handle? Once when Bruce Nelson was asked by a suspect if the thirteen-round magazine in the P35 was not a big advantage, Bruce's answer was, "Well, yes, if you plan to miss a lot." The highest score I know of at this time achieved by one man against a group of armed adversaries was recorded in (of all places) the Ivory Coast! There, some years ago, a graduate student of mine laid out five goblins, with four dead and one totaled for the hospital. Of course there is the episode of Alvin York and his eight, but there is some dispute about that tale. (If you read it over very carefully you will see what I mean.) Be that as it may, I see no real need for a double column magazine. It is all the rage, of course, and like dual air bags, it is a popular current sales gimmick.

VMI77 wrote:Jeff Cooper:

It has never been clear to me why increased magazine capacity in a defensive pistol is particularly choice. The bigger the magazine the bigger the gun, and the bigger the gun the harder it is to get hold of for people with small hands. And what, pray, does one need all those rounds for? How many lethal antagonists do you think you are going to be able to handle? Once when Bruce Nelson was asked by a suspect if the thirteen-round magazine in the P35 was not a big advantage, Bruce's answer was, "Well, yes, if you plan to miss a lot." The highest score I know of at this time achieved by one man against a group of armed adversaries was recorded in (of all places) the Ivory Coast! There, some years ago, a graduate student of mine laid out five goblins, with four dead and one totaled for the hospital. Of course there is the episode of Alvin York and his eight, but there is some dispute about that tale. (If you read it over very carefully you will see what I mean.) Be that as it may, I see no real need for a double column magazine. It is all the rage, of course, and like dual air bags, it is a popular current sales gimmick.

C-dub wrote:Well, if you're Jeff Cooper or Jerry Miculek or some other gun ninja master I suppose a gun with more than 7 rounds would be superfluous. However, I ain't one of those.

C-dub wrote:

VMI77 wrote:Jeff Cooper:

It has never been clear to me why increased magazine capacity in a defensive pistol is particularly choice. The bigger the magazine the bigger the gun, and the bigger the gun the harder it is to get hold of for people with small hands. And what, pray, does one need all those rounds for? How many lethal antagonists do you think you are going to be able to handle? Once when Bruce Nelson was asked by a suspect if the thirteen-round magazine in the P35 was not a big advantage, Bruce's answer was, "Well, yes, if you plan to miss a lot." The highest score I know of at this time achieved by one man against a group of armed adversaries was recorded in (of all places) the Ivory Coast! There, some years ago, a graduate student of mine laid out five goblins, with four dead and one totaled for the hospital. Of course there is the episode of Alvin York and his eight, but there is some dispute about that tale. (If you read it over very carefully you will see what I mean.) Be that as it may, I see no real need for a double column magazine. It is all the rage, of course, and like dual air bags, it is a popular current sales gimmick.

Well, if you're Jeff Cooper or Jerry Miculek or some other gun ninja master I suppose a gun with more than 7 rounds would be superfluous. However, I ain't one of those.

VMI77 wrote:

In fairness to Mr. Cooper, it was a different country and a different world back then. Not sure of the exact date of this quote, but I believe back when he said it we were living in the days when my high school parking lot contained student vehicles displaying rifles and shotguns, and we sometimes met out in the school parking lot to examine someone's new gun.

C-dub wrote: Well, if you're Jeff Cooper or Jerry Miculek or some other gun ninja master I suppose a gun with more than 7 rounds would be superfluous. However, I ain't one of those.

Blaize4286 wrote:I think you should carry as much ammo as YOU can comfortably. What constitutes comfort is up to you. Personally I carry 13+1 in the gun, and 2 additional 16 rd mags.