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Re: Sheriff wants 30.06 signs on court house
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:34 pm
by Glockster
Rex B wrote:After reading this yesterday, I sent a note to Paxton's office:
Subject: : enforce SB273
government officials all over the state are trying to subvert the will of the legislature as the enacted SB273. Zoos are posting 30.06 signs and calling themselves " schools". Gun shows are posting their events in civic buildings. This needs to stop and some examples made. Please taken action against this illegal activity.
This morning I got this reply:
Mr. B, my name is Captain Gregory Lucas, I am the Law Enforcement Liaison for the Office of the Texas Attorney General (OAG), your e-mail was forwarded to me for review. The OAG has taken steps to address these complaints, we have set up a complaint form on the OAG website at the bottom of the page at
https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/ and we also have set up a complaint hotline at 844-584-3006 or 512-936-3006. There have been several official requests for OAG Opinions regarding the new laws, particularly the handgun laws, those Opinions have not yet been rendered. We are compiling all of the complaints that have come in, but are not going to take any action until those Opinions have been issued as they will affect the validity of many of the complaints. I assure you that all valid complaints will be addressed. If you would like to see the pending request list, the link to the OAG website is
https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/op ... recent.php. The most notable request is RQ-0040-KP which specifically addresses government buildings. Please let me know if you have any further questions.
Captain Gregory Lucas
Law Enforcement Liaison
Office of the Attorney General
Criminal Investigation Division
Office 512-936-1335
Cell 512-652-8426
Fax 512-370-9948
We are compiling all of the complaints that have come in, but are not going to take any action until those Opinions have been issued as they will affect the validity of many of the complaints.
Huh. This one part of his reply seemed...odd to me. First thought was that it was what you'd say if a bunch of complaints were about to be declared invalid. Affect vs. substantiate or validate. Affect validity just sounds like what you hear right before they tell you that it's not valid but thanks so much for bringing it to our attention. Anyone else get that same vibe off of it?
Re: Sheriff wants 30.06 signs on court house
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:38 pm
by Glockster
Rex B wrote:After reading this yesterday, I sent a note to Paxton's office:
Subject: : enforce SB273
government officials all over the state are trying to subvert the will of the legislature as the enacted SB273. Zoos are posting 30.06 signs and calling themselves " schools". Gun shows are posting their events in civic buildings. This needs to stop and some examples made. Please taken action against this illegal activity.
This morning I got this reply:
Mr. B, my name is Captain Gregory Lucas, I am the Law Enforcement Liaison for the Office of the Texas Attorney General (OAG), your e-mail was forwarded to me for review. The OAG has taken steps to address these complaints, we have set up a complaint form on the OAG website at the bottom of the page at
https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/ and we also have set up a complaint hotline at 844-584-3006 or 512-936-3006. There have been several official requests for OAG Opinions regarding the new laws, particularly the handgun laws, those Opinions have not yet been rendered. We are compiling all of the complaints that have come in, but are not going to take any action until those Opinions have been issued as they will affect the validity of many of the complaints. I assure you that all valid complaints will be addressed. If you would like to see the pending request list, the link to the OAG website is
https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/op ... recent.php. The most notable request is RQ-0040-KP which specifically addresses government buildings. Please let me know if you have any further questions.
Captain Gregory Lucas
Law Enforcement Liaison
Office of the Attorney General
Criminal Investigation Division
Office 512-936-1335
Cell 512-652-8426
Fax 512-370-9948
Huh, part 2. I didn't see any of the zoos on that list, and there were actually only a few gun related ones.
Re: Sheriff wants 30.06 signs on court house
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:02 pm
by Rex B
I noticed that too. Maybe we need to step up our game
Re: Sheriff wants 30.06 signs on court house
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:30 pm
by Glockster
Okay, I counted them. Here's what there is pending:
- River Authority
- campus carry
- school district
- multi-purpose
And that is it. Something is seriously wrong here. No zoos, no other governmet buildings.
Re: Sheriff wants 30.06 signs on court house
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:20 pm
by Outnumbered
I understood the link to be to a list of items pending for AG opinions, not the list of pending complaints against govt agencies posting 30.06
Re: Sheriff wants 30.06 signs on court house
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:48 pm
by Rex B
I like that River Authority has been challenged.
Did you know that the Trinity Valley Water Authority has it's own police agency?
Re: Sheriff wants 30.06 signs on court house
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:21 pm
by Glockster
Outnumbered wrote:I understood the link to be to a list of items pending for AG opinions, not the list of pending complaints against govt agencies posting 30.06
Yes but I thought for sure that there would be more. I am very surprised that for example, Houston zoo wasn't on there.
Re: Sheriff wants 30.06 signs on court house
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 12:04 am
by MeMelYup
Glockster wrote:Outnumbered wrote:I understood the link to be to a list of items pending for AG opinions, not the list of pending complaints against govt agencies posting 30.06
Yes but I thought for sure that there would be more. I am very surprised that for example, Houston zoo wasn't on there.
Evidently no attorney has asked for an opinion on the zoo's.
Re: Sheriff wants 30.06 signs on court house
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:20 am
by nightmare69
Smith county commissioners voted to keep courthouse a gun free zone.
http://m.kltv.com/kltv/db/345145/content/kwhd47km
Who wants to bet the signs will remain once the AG gives his opinion that a multi use building is not a court.
Re: Sheriff wants 30.06 signs on court house
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:55 am
by mojo84
nightmare69 wrote:Smith county commissioners voted to keep courthouse a gun free zone.
http://m.kltv.com/kltv/db/345145/content/kwhd47km
Who wants to bet the signs will remain once the AG gives his opinion that a multi use building is not a court.
Link isn't working for me. It's a shame some just don't want to follow the law and do what they want regardless. Seems like it makes them no different than the criminals that are being tried in the courthouse. Hopefully, they will incur a significant fine. Someone needs to go through the steps to put them on notice and then report them to the AG.
Re: Sheriff wants 30.06 signs on court house
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:44 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
Glockster wrote:Outnumbered wrote:I understood the link to be to a list of items pending for AG opinions, not the list of pending complaints against govt agencies posting 30.06
Yes but I thought for sure that there would be more. I am very surprised that for example, Houston zoo wasn't on there.
You are confusing official requests for an AG opinion with SB273 complaints. Only specific people can ask for an AG opinion and there hasn't been a request related to zoos.
I wish the AG would post a list of agencies, entities and facilities that have been the subject of complaints.
Chas.
Re: Sheriff wants 30.06 signs on court house
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 2:25 pm
by Pawpaw
mojo84 wrote:nightmare69 wrote:Smith county commissioners voted to keep courthouse a gun free zone.
http://m.kltv.com/kltv/db/345145/content/kwhd47km
Who wants to bet the signs will remain once the AG gives his opinion that a multi use building is not a court.
Link isn't working for me. It's a shame some just don't want to follow the law and do what they want regardless. Seems like it makes them no different than the criminals that are being tried in the courthouse. Hopefully, they will incur a significant fine. Someone needs to go through the steps to put them on notice and then report them to the AG.
http://www.kltv.com/story/30695016/smit ... -carry-law
Re: Sheriff wants 30.06 signs on court house
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 5:35 pm
by Glockster
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Glockster wrote:Outnumbered wrote:I understood the link to be to a list of items pending for AG opinions, not the list of pending complaints against govt agencies posting 30.06
Yes but I thought for sure that there would be more. I am very surprised that for example, Houston zoo wasn't on there.
You are confusing official requests for an AG opinion with SB273 complaints. Only specific people can ask for an AG opinion and there hasn't been a request related to zoos.
I wish the AG would post a list of agencies, entities and facilities that have been the subject of complaints.
Chas.
I see, thanks!