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Liberty wrote:There are direct source that quote him as saying he was German and to F the immigrants. The sources that claimed he said alu akbar have been sourced to a twitter account.
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I saw a video where a shooter says he is German. I also read an eye witness account that a shooter yelled Allahu Akbar as he was killing children. Guess what. she happens to be both German and Muslim and was in the Mc Donald's. Who would have thunk it.....a German Muslim.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... entre-live

Iranian born.

Liberty wrote:There are direct source that quote him as saying he was German and to F the immigrants. The sources that claimed he said alu akbar have been sourced to a twitter account.
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Still convinced he is just a German right wing nut? I'm seeing more reports he is a Muslim from Iran that moved to Germany fairly recently.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/22/europe/ge ... type=Email

Why the denial? Are you convinced there is no way he just threw out there the German comment order to stir the pot and cause more dissention? Looks like that may be the case and that it worked.

mojo84 wrote: Why the denial? Are you convinced there is no way he just three out there the German comment order to stir the pot and sucker people in to cause more dissention? Looks like that may be the case and that it worked.

I don't know, but I'm guessing that this isn't a religious based terrorism. It will be interesting top find out what his motivation is. He is an Iranian German, not the typical European Islamic Terrrorist. Probably not ISIS .

Liberty wrote:

mojo84 wrote: Why the denial? Are you convinced there is no way he just three out there the German comment order to stir the pot and sucker people in to cause more dissention? Looks like that may be the case and that it worked.

I don't know, but I'm guessing that this isn't a religious based terrorism. It will be interesting top find out what his motivation is. He is an Iranian German, not the typical European Islamic Terrrorist. Probably not ISIS .

Keyword "guessing".

mojo84 wrote:

Liberty wrote: I don't know, but I'm guessing that this isn't a religious based terrorism. It will be interesting top find out what his motivation is. He is an Iranian German, not the typical European Islamic Terrrorist. Probably not ISIS .

Keyword "guessing".

Of course ...

mojo84 wrote:

Liberty wrote:Funny how resistant we are to accept that its right wing nationalist ... It is a real problem in Germany amd these guys are just as nutz as the Islamist.

Funny how so many jump to conclusions in spite of conflicting reports and when very few facts are known.

It may very well be some local nutjob. Or, it could be a local German that has become a radicalized Muslim. It's too early to know at this point regardless what anyone wants to believe.

The first few days after a mass shooting are chock full of misinformation, speculation, and rumors. It takes at least 3 days for most of the initial dust to settle enough to get a semicoherent sense of what actually happened, and even at that point there are still inaccuracies in published reports and lots of withheld information by official sources (e.g. our attorney general's monumentally absurd "[omitted]" redactions of Islam related elements in the statements of the Orlando shooter, and the French censorship of the fact that some victims at the Bataclan theatre were tortured and mutilated in horrifying ways).

I'll wait for things to settle down before I form an opinion on this latest attack.

Liberty wrote:

mojo84 wrote:

Liberty wrote: I don't know, but I'm guessing that this isn't a religious based terrorism. It will be interesting top find out what his motivation is. He is an Iranian German, not the typical European Islamic Terrrorist. Probably not ISIS .

Keyword "guessing".

Of course ...

My point is, you were calling others out for having an opinion when you too were only "guessing" and didn't know any more facts than those you were calling out. That is what is eye rolling worthy.

When these things happen, most everyone will have their own suspicions and opinions initially.

Here's another "guess". He was disgruntled with Germany bringing in more non-Shi'a Muslims.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1488508/n ... ng-centre/

Obsessed with mass murder. Lured teens to McDonalds with offers of free food by hacking a girls Facebook account. Eight of the dead are teens or are twenty.

"It has been revealed Sonboly was undergoing psychological treatment for mental illness and was obsessed with mass-shootings.

German investigators say there is an “obvious link” between Friday’s shooting at a Munich mall and far-right Norwegian killer Anders Behring Breivik."

Had a 9mm Glock handgun with 300 rounds.

parabelum wrote:Here's another "guess". He was disgruntled with Germany bringing in more non-Shi'a Muslims.

Very possible.

The shooter was shot by a police sharp shooter when he was on roof and he got injured and run away. Maybe later he shot himself in the head.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/24/world ... .html?_r=0

Apparently bullied. Lived in subsidized housing with his immigrant parents possibly on welfare.

"Among the many questions facing the authorities on Saturday as Munich slowly returned to normal was how Mr. Sonboly had gotten a handgun and so much ammunition, despite Germany’s strict gun laws.

The serial number of the Glock had been scratched off, complicating the authorities’ ability to trace the firearm, said Robert Heimberger, the chief of the Bavarian State Criminal Police, at a late morning news conference. The teenager did not have a license to own a gun."

300 rounds in Germany is "so much ammunition".

Doesn't glock serialize the barrel AND the frame? I guess it doesn't seem so far fetched that they filed both off, just a little less likely..

Black market rats would do anything for couple grand of euros.