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Re: Gun 'mistakes' in Books, TV, and Movies - feel free to post your own

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 5:35 pm
by TxRVer
Chuck Connors had the same problem with a shell falling out. They added a plunger to prevent that.

Like the Rifleman, Steve McQueen's rifle shot .44-40s. Some genius thought .45-70s would look better in his belt. Still, the rifle only held 3 + 1.

Re: Gun 'mistakes' in Books, TV, and Movies - feel free to post your own

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 5:42 pm
by joe817
TxRVer wrote:Chuck Connors had the same problem with a shell falling out. They added a plunger to prevent that.

Like the Rifleman, Steve McQueen's rifle shot .44-40s. Some genius thought .45-70s would look better in his belt. Still, the rifle only held 3 + 1.
What I thought! Thanks for chiming in! :cheers2:

I forgot to add, my 1892 was also in 44-40.

Re: Gun 'mistakes' in Books, TV, and Movies - feel free to post your own

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:00 pm
by TxRVer
joe817 wrote:
TxRVer wrote:Chuck Connors had the same problem with a shell falling out. They added a plunger to prevent that.

Like the Rifleman, Steve McQueen's rifle shot .44-40s. Some genius thought .45-70s would look better in his belt. Still, the rifle only held 3 + 1.
What I thought! Thanks for chiming in! :cheers2:

I forgot to add, my 1892 was also in 44-40.
My pleasure. I love facts and trivia about the old westerns. I don't know about Bat Masterson's extended barrel, but I've been watching the old show Restless Gun. Vint Bonner carries, in his saddlebags a shoulder stock and long barrel for his hand gun. It looks like there is a cylinder attached to the barrel. He changes it out for distance work.

Re: Gun 'mistakes' in Books, TV, and Movies - feel free to post your own

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 7:11 pm
by Sport Coach
Yep, my favorite irritation is the "slide racking, hammer cocking" of a gun when simply pointed at someone/something. Apparently it's necessary in the movie or TV to prove that the actor is serious about the threat.

Re: Gun 'mistakes' in Books, TV, and Movies - feel free to post your own

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 7:16 pm
by Skiprr
rotor wrote:If you want to read accurate read Stephen Hunter. Bob Swagger is amazing in Hunter's books.
I agree. Hunter's a gun guy...sort of. The very sad thing, though, is that Hollywood took advantage in Shooter (the book was titled Point of Impact), and pretty much messed some stuff up.

But even Hunter messes stuff up. In a 2011 Washington Post Op Ed piece, Hunter wrote:
Particularly in rural Arizona, given the upsurge in border violence, it's likely that residents feel the need to defend themselves against drug predators, coyote gunmen or others. Yes, they can use semiautomatic rifles and shotguns, protected by the Second Amendment and unlikely to be banned by local law, but women generally don't care to put in the training needed to master them. Nor can the elderly handle them adeptly
I'm sorry? Women and the elderly can't handle an semiauto sporting rifle?

'Scuse me?

That's what turned me off to Stephen Hunter. He's a gun guy...but only in his niche. That he would opine that a basic .223 AR patrol rifle is beyond the ability of a woman or someone of golden age to handle baffles me. Fifteen-year-old girls shoot the platform extremely well. And as a guy taking Centrum Silver, I can say that I handle an AR-15 better than any other long-gun or shotgun in my safe.
rotor wrote:If you want to see fantastic gun work see the movie John Wick. I have tried to analyze the scenes but they all look great and realistic. Keanu Reeves does such a good job with gun-fu.
The Keanu Reeves thing was a revelation. I always thought of Reeves as a slacker doofus. If anyone was far-left anti-gun, it was Keanu Reeves.

Whether that was the case in his twenties, I can't say. But a mutual acquaintance, Dana Workman, clued me in to the 21st Century Reeves.

The man owns and customizes multiple firearms. He shoots 3-gun competitions. He trains regularly with USPSA champion Taran Butler.

Color me floored. Absolutely floored.

Maybe we need a separate Topic where we can acknowledge pro-2A actors, celebrities, athletes, politicians...and just notable people out spreading the fact that the Second Amendment really does still exist.

Re: Gun 'mistakes' in Books, TV, and Movies - feel free to post your own

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 7:35 pm
by WTR
I was also surprised to see a video clip showing K. Reeves to be an avid 2A supporter and weapon enthusiast.

Re: Gun 'mistakes' in Books, TV, and Movies - feel free to post your own

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 7:42 pm
by The Wall
Sport Coach wrote:Yep, my favorite irritation is the "slide racking, hammer cocking" of a gun when simply pointed at someone/something. Apparently it's necessary in the movie or TV to prove that the actor is serious about the threat.
I've seen in a few movies and television shows where the same guy racks the slide more than once before shooting and nothing is ejected. They'll show someone racking the slide, go to different person and then go back to first person and he'll rack it again. :lol:

Re: Gun 'mistakes' in Books, TV, and Movies - feel free to post your own

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 9:04 pm
by joe817
Skiprr wrote: .....The Keanu Reeves thing was a revelation. I always thought of Reeves as a slacker doofus. If anyone was far-left anti-gun, it was Keanu Reeves. Whether that was the case in his twenties, I can't say. But a mutual acquaintance, Dana Workman, clued me in to the 21st Century Reeves.

The man owns and customizes multiple firearms. He shoots 3-gun competitions. He trains regularly with USPSA champion Taran Butler. Color me floored. Absolutely floored.

Maybe we need a separate Topic where we can acknowledge pro-2A actors, celebrities, athletes, politicians...and just notable people out spreading the fact that the Second Amendment really does still exist.
Excellent idea Skiprr! I'll drink to that! :cheers2:

Keanu Reeves, Chuck Norris, Charlton Heston(may he R.I.P.). Who else? Barry Goldwater? Wait. He was a ham radio operator. Angelina Jole; chef Alton Brown, Clint Eastwood, James Earl Jones, and don't forget Ted Nugent, and the list goes on and on:

http://gunssavelives.net/blog/11-pro-gu ... -do-exist/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/ ... love-guns/

http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/most-inf ... id/654745/

And the list goes on and on.

Re: Gun 'mistakes' in Books, TV, and Movies - feel free to post your own

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 8:56 am
by dwsintxs
As the O P of this subject I will now fess up to MY own screw up in MY novel. - (Boy is this embarrassing)

I have written 5 novels - 4 are out on Amazon now. . .and the 5th will be available in about 10 days.

My 4th novel, titled 'Deliver Unto Me the Innocents has a major mistake in it. . .and I definitely AM going to fix it, but here it is. . .oh, and let me add, I own 10 guns, and have a CHL, but own not ONE revolver. I'm just NOT a wheel gun guy.

In my book, there is a high school shooting, along the lines of the Columbine thing. . . and the book deals with the aftermath of the shooting, which takes place in north Texas and the shooting comes to be known as 'The Cottonwood Massacre'.

At any rate, one of the detectives in the story has a S&W model 627 revolver. I make a point in the story of explaining that it can fire 38 special and .357 mag. The problem came during my research, (as I said, I am NOT a revolver guy) when I looked at the 627 model and the 637 model. . . and in the story I mistakenly wrote that the model he had is the 637.

Interestingly enough, a detective read the book, said that he really enjoyed it and said 'at least you got all the gun stuff right. There I was feeling all proud and cocky and then a friend of mine (he is ex-army) pointed out the mistake!

Re: Gun 'mistakes' in Books, TV, and Movies - feel free to post your own

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 9:34 am
by dlh
dwsintxs wrote:As the O P of this subject I will now fess up to MY own screw up in MY novel. - (Boy is this embarrassing)

I have written 5 novels - 4 are out on Amazon now. . .and the 5th will be available in about 10 days.

My 4th novel, titled 'Deliver Unto Me the Innocents has a major mistake in it. . .and I definitely AM going to fix it, but here it is. . .oh, and let me add, I own 10 guns, and have a CHL, but own not ONE revolver. I'm just NOT a wheel gun guy.

In my book, there is a high school shooting, along the lines of the Columbine thing. . . and the book deals with the aftermath of the shooting, which takes place in north Texas and the shooting comes to be known as 'The Cottonwood Massacre'.

At any rate, one of the detectives in the story has a S&W model 627 revolver. I make a point in the story of explaining that it can fire 38 special and .357 mag. The problem came during my research, (as I said, I am NOT a revolver guy) when I looked at the 627 model and the 637 model. . . and in the story I mistakenly wrote that the model he had is the 637.

Interestingly enough, a detective read the book, said that he really enjoyed it and said 'at least you got all the gun stuff right. There I was feeling all proud and cocky and then a friend of mine (he is ex-army) pointed out the mistake!
There are so many manufacturers, model numbers, etc. of firearms that it is easy to mess up on that. Always best to visit the manufacturer's website to get accurate information on the particular firearm you are writing about.

I plan on writing a spoof novel intentionally filled with gaffes, anachronisms, errors, etc. concerning firearms. I will send a copy to Hillary. :lol:

Re: Gun 'mistakes' in Books, TV, and Movies - feel free to post your own

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 10:11 am
by dwsintxs
I plan on writing a spoof novel intentionally filled with gaffes, anachronisms, errors, etc. concerning firearms. I will send a copy to Hillary. :lol:


DON'T do that! LOL. . . she will believe every word of it as gospel!

Re: Gun 'mistakes' in Books, TV, and Movies - feel free to post your own

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 2:37 pm
by SewTexas
joe817 wrote:
Skiprr wrote: .....The Keanu Reeves thing was a revelation. I always thought of Reeves as a slacker doofus. If anyone was far-left anti-gun, it was Keanu Reeves. Whether that was the case in his twenties, I can't say. But a mutual acquaintance, Dana Workman, clued me in to the 21st Century Reeves.

The man owns and customizes multiple firearms. He shoots 3-gun competitions. He trains regularly with USPSA champion Taran Butler. Color me floored. Absolutely floored.

Maybe we need a separate Topic where we can acknowledge pro-2A actors, celebrities, athletes, politicians...and just notable people out spreading the fact that the Second Amendment really does still exist.
Excellent idea Skiprr! I'll drink to that! :cheers2:

Keanu Reeves, Chuck Norris, Charlton Heston(may he R.I.P.). Who else? Barry Goldwater? Wait. He was a ham radio operator. Angelina Jole; chef Alton Brown, Clint Eastwood, James Earl Jones, and don't forget Ted Nugent, and the list goes on and on:

http://gunssavelives.net/blog/11-pro-gu ... -do-exist/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/ ... love-guns/

http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/most-inf ... id/654745/

And the list goes on and on.

wow! Alton Brown is pro-gun AND has 2 corgis.....I may just have to marry the man...oh wait...I'm already....but Alton has money...hmmmm

Re: Gun 'mistakes' in Books, TV, and Movies - feel free to post your own

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 5:43 pm
by rotor
SewTexas wrote: wow! Alton Brown is pro-gun AND has 2 corgis.....I may just have to marry the man...oh wait...I'm already....but Alton has money...hmmmm
Corgis do it for you, OK. My wife favors our corgi ( or at best mostly corgi ) over our other 2 dogs too. Darn thing is just too big to be a lap dog but he doesn't know that. Makes a great watchdog and seems to have a better sense of hearing than any dog I have ever seen. SHEDS like the dickens.

Re: Gun 'mistakes' in Books, TV, and Movies - feel free to post your own

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:53 am
by LucasMcCain
The wife and I have been watching Prison Break, and the FBI guy's Glock makes a decocking sound when he puts it away. Makes me crazy.

The one that really bugged me was in the last Avengers movie, Civil War. A couple of our heroes are being shot at with what are clearly fully automatic rifles. One of them (I think it was Captain America) says something like "those are AR-15 rifles they're shooting at us." The line was completely unnecessary and had nothing to do with the plot or anything else. It just felt like blatant propaganda. "Let's point out that the terrorists use AR-15s and that they're fully automatic. Yeah!" :mad5

On a related note, I actually know how to pick locks. I'm not great at it, but I can open most basic door locks. Seeing what passes for lockpicking in movies just annoys me to no end. And how does every person in movies know how to hotwire like any car? Okay, I better stop now.

Re: Gun 'mistakes' in Books, TV, and Movies - feel free to post your own

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:03 pm
by flechero
it seems like every gun when cocked, cycled and or even picked up (handgun) makes the same sound as a pump shotgun being pumped. :lol: