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TexasTornado wrote:

SHogun62 wrote:I stand corrected, missed that one line in the first paragraph. I've never had a reason to meet with an instructor in their office, so I don't see a need to worry about it on my end. I don't know if it's an ATEC thing or what, but most of my instructors prefer communication via email.

Partially an ATEC/EMAC thing. I'vedefinitely seen a difference between them and my professorson in less technology oriented fields.

That's a valid point. I've noticed the same thing in my non ATEC/EMAC courses as well.

With the exception of my extra figgiting like a noob; first day of carrying at UTA was uneventful, as expected.

Surfer

surferdaddy wrote:With the exception of my extra figgiting like a noob; first day of carrying at UTA was uneventful, as expected.

Surfer

I fidgeted my first class too, don't feel bad.

Aug 1 felt like a day long Wally walk for me (I'm a staff member so I've been on campus since day one...)

At my campus, the police have been very firm in the statement that the licensed people are not an issue and that people DO and HAVE carried illegal weapons on campus, and been arrested for it, already. it's actually been refreshing, dare I say it.

Now the academics... To them, the sky is falling.

TexasJohnBoy wrote:Aug 1 felt like a day long Wally walk for me (I'm a staff member so I've been on campus since day one...)

At my campus, the police have been very firm in the statement that the licensed people are not an issue and that people DO and HAVE carried illegal weapons on campus, and been arrested for it, already. it's actually been refreshing, dare I say it.

Now the academics... To them, the sky is falling.

I did carry on August 2nd but was only on campus about 45 minutes to take an exam, no professor present just the TA.

The authority figures and their outspoken criticism of the policy cause the discomfort.....they should really watch their microaggressions toward students....oh wait, we're not a "disadvantaged minority."

I was told by a student (going to Tyler Junior College) that campus security said you couldn't carry on their campus because the law allows a year to 'prepare for it'...

RogueUSMC wrote:I was told by a student (going to Tyler Junior College) that campus security said you couldn't carry on their campus because the law allows a year to 'prepare for it'...

Yeah Junior/Community colleges won't have Campus Carry until next year.

RogueUSMC wrote:I was told by a student (going to Tyler Junior College) that campus security said you couldn't carry on their campus because the law allows a year to 'prepare for it'...

Correct. Community colleges start campus carry in 2017.

already having had a year, why are community colleges any different?

RogueUSMC wrote:already having had a year, why are community colleges any different?

From a logistics standpoint, I can understand why community colleges will implement at a separate time. Allowing universities the ability to set up "reasonable restrictions" on where handguns may be carried was required to get the bill passed. The legislature wanted to be able to review the restrictions implemented by the universities to see if the intent of the law was being followed. I would imagine that there are fewer public 4-year universities than community colleges. Having the 4-year universities go first allows the legislature to evaluate the implementations and take action to set guidelines that the community colleges can follow as a template.

For example, if 4-year universities decide that areas that have school aged children should be off limits (justified erroneously by a tortured reading of TPC 46.03 (a)(1)), then this gives the legislature time to fix TPC 46.03 (a)(1) and state that it should not be used as justification to ban people from carrying in classrooms that could have dual credit high-school students in attendance.

Papa_Tiger wrote:

RogueUSMC wrote:already having had a year, why are community colleges any different?

From a logistics standpoint, I can understand why community colleges will implement at a separate time. Allowing universities the ability to set up "reasonable restrictions" on where handguns may be carried was required to get the bill passed. The legislature wanted to be able to review the restrictions implemented by the universities to see if the intent of the law was being followed. I would imagine that there are fewer public 4-year universities than community colleges. Having the 4-year universities go first allows the legislature to evaluate the implementations and take action to set guidelines that the community colleges can follow as a template.

For example, if 4-year universities decide that areas that have school aged children should be off limits (justified erroneously by a tortured reading of TPC 46.03 (a)(1)), then this gives the legislature time to fix TPC 46.03 (a)(1) and state that it should not be used as justification to ban people from carrying in classrooms that could have dual credit high-school students in attendance.

Also the resources available to a 4 year institution to meet a shortened deadline far exceed that of most community schools. I doubt little Grayson College is going to have a conglomerate of boards, presidents, and reagents working on their implementation policy.

TexasTornado wrote:

Papa_Tiger wrote:

RogueUSMC wrote:already having had a year, why are community colleges any different?

From a logistics standpoint, I can understand why community colleges will implement at a separate time. Allowing universities the ability to set up "reasonable restrictions" on where handguns may be carried was required to get the bill passed. The legislature wanted to be able to review the restrictions implemented by the universities to see if the intent of the law was being followed. I would imagine that there are fewer public 4-year universities than community colleges. Having the 4-year universities go first allows the legislature to evaluate the implementations and take action to set guidelines that the community colleges can follow as a template.

For example, if 4-year universities decide that areas that have school aged children should be off limits (justified erroneously by a tortured reading of TPC 46.03 (a)(1)), then this gives the legislature time to fix TPC 46.03 (a)(1) and state that it should not be used as justification to ban people from carrying in classrooms that could have dual credit high-school students in attendance.

Also the resources available to a 4 year institution to meet a shortened deadline far exceed that of most community schools. I doubt little Grayson College is going to have a conglomerate of boards, presidents, and reagents working on their implementation policy.

GCC class of '72. Go Vikings!

The cheapest and easiest way to implement - don't put up any signs, and remove any restrictions on firearms from your student and employee publications.
Community colleges often have satellites in places that overlap with high schools, federal property, etc. and who defines where as what gets complicated. Much of the conflict would be cleared by removing those as prohibited areas as well.

Jeff

Boxerrider wrote:The cheapest and easiest way to implement - don't put up any signs, and remove any restrictions on firearms from your student and employee publications.
Community colleges often have satellites in places that overlap with high schools, federal property, etc. and who defines where as what gets complicated. Much of the conflict would be cleared by removing those as prohibited areas as well.

Jeff

I know Grayson has always been a mess of contradictions. How do you ban guns from school property that has a shooting range? and it's open to more than just the police academy students too...

Well it's a good thing we're not the gun brandishing wackos they all think we are. Campus carry has certainly not scared people into common courtesy.

Waiting for a car to pull put in the parking lot with my turn signal on. Car whips into the spot ahead of me.

I asked the gentleman in his mid 40s (old enough to know better) "Sir did you not see me waiting there with my turn signal on?"

His response? "Yes I did, so?"

Was I irritated? Oh yea.
Did I for a second want to shoot him? Nope
Did I want to ram his pretty little mustang? Nah, but she definitely deserves a better owner.

Grrr. I may still leave a note letting him know what I think of his arrogant behavior if his car is still there after class....