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No grip plugs. It needs to be a CCW. With the recent Florida nightclub shooting, the Mall Shooting, and the Texas police officer who shot the AK47 wielding terrorist in Garland, I want to be able to return effective fire against a rifle wielding attacker from a long distance away. With open carry legal, I don't have to buy tiny mouse guns for CCW anymore. I won't care if it prints anymore.

Bitter Clinger wrote:

Keith Bilbrey wrote:

drjoker wrote: 2. for the fixed sights, is it easy to shoot at the point of aim or will you have to "compensate" by aiming a bit high or low, etc? If it shoots to the point of aim at, say, 20 ft or less, then at what range do you have to start compensating? 50 yards? 100 yards?

Thanks,

If you are shooting at 50-100 yards, you WILL need to compensate. In my experience, hold at the bottom of the head at 50, top of the head at 100. That's out of my 9mm M&P. YMMV.

If shooting at 50 - 100 yards, either get closer or buy a shoulder stock adapter that fits in the grip plug.

There are many here on the Forum who conceal a full size gun. I have concealed a Glock 21 and I conceal a full size 1911 everyday. The owner of the Forum, Mr. Cotton conceals a full size 1911 everyday. I believe TAM conceals a Glock 17 daily.

You don't ha e to ha e a mouse gun in order to conceal
properly.

I have concealed carried the following full sized pistols with no issue over the last 20 years:

Glock 21
Glock 22
Beretta 92 FS
S&W 5906
S&W M&P
S&W M65 4"
S&W M13 3"

Never had a problem concealing, but it is mostly about your choices in carry method and concealment garments. Was it always comfortable to conceal a full sized gun? Not at all. It was usually hot and somewhat annoying. I don't always carry a full sized gun, that's what the little pocket 380 is for, but when I can, I do.