Hedging the election

[Bitter Clinger]

http://defenderoutdoors.com/american-ta ... 2-GSG-1911

[jb2012]

http://defenderoutdoors.com/american-ta ... 2-GSG-1911

That looks like a pretty good deal also. Comes with a freefloated key mod forend for $550? I'd jump on it if I was in the market for another AR.

[Bitter Clinger]

http://defenderoutdoors.com/american-ta ... 2-GSG-1911

That looks like a pretty good deal also. Comes with a freefloated key mod forend for $550? I'd jump on it if I was in the market for another AR.

Have you noticed how certain threads just seem to become expensive? I need to stop following this one!

[jb2012]

http://defenderoutdoors.com/american-ta ... 2-GSG-1911

That looks like a pretty good deal also. Comes with a freefloated key mod forend for $550? I'd jump on it if I was in the market for another AR.

Have you noticed how certain threads just seem to become expensive? I need to stop following this one!

haha that is a fact! this forum in general is expensive!!

[TexasJohnBoy]

http://defenderoutdoors.com/american-ta ... 2-GSG-1911

That looks like a pretty good deal also. Comes with a freefloated key mod forend for $550? I'd jump on it if I was in the market for another AR.

Have you noticed how certain threads just seem to become expensive? I need to stop following this one!

haha that is a fact! this forum in general is expensive!!

Hahaha, just wait till you start looking at reloading.

[parabelum]

All this will do is drive up the price of ammo etc. Regardless who wins, which I don't foresee being that despicable lying witch, nothing will happen on day 1.

When the current dictator came to power, same thing. Both first and second term. Prices of mags, ammo, AR parts etc. all skyrocketed to the point where average Joe such as myself couldn't find .22 for awhile. Basic Bushmaster sold for twice the original cost, if you could even find one.

I feel like the mass hysteria is already gearing up. Do not fall for it. Even if the witch wins, which I believe will not happen, mass hysteria will do more immediate harm to gun/ammo availability then she ever could realistically.


Trump is taking off ahead of her and I don't believe the lying polls. He is filling the stadiums while the witch can't even fill HS auditorium. Progs know that despite help from subversive Media, Trump has not only remained fairly close to them, but has actually taken a lead by several "polls", and I suspect the internal polls show even more bleak outcome for the witch.

I'll hedge this election on getting a new scripture and daily devotional to my collection.

[The Annoyed Man]

You can pick up a basic carbine for $500-$600, but it will be of marginal quality.

Is the S&W MP15 Sport 2 considered marginal quality? If so, then I need to sell mine and move up to the next level.

I did a lot of research including talking to the guys on our local SO and PD swat teams. Since I have known most of them since they got into law enforcement I picked their brains. These guys have a lot of money invested in their rigs, even the department issued ARs. They told me the S&W M&P 15 Sport II is all I would need if I was not shooting competition or planning on putting tens of thousands of rounds through it and even then, any part that wears out could be replaced easily enough. I am not a "black rifle guy" but decided I wanted one and that now was a good time. The S&W will last me the rest of my life for not much money. Another factor, since I am old school I had already decided my AR was going to be a Colt or S&W and got a better deal on the Smith. BTW, both Colt and S&W offer higher end ARs but at a higher price point than what I wanted to spend.

The S&W is perfectly fine for 99.99999% of use. Bottom line, if there is ever anything you don't like about it or don't have enough confidence in it, you can always upgrade it. Even the S&W versions (or any other manufacturers', for that matter) that come without a dust cover or forward assist can be upgraded by simply replacing the upper receiver half - which is a relatively inexpensive upgrade.

[Flightmare]

Trump is taking off ahead of her and I don't believe the lying polls. He is filling the stadiums while the witch can't even fill HS auditorium. Progs know that despite help from subversive Media, Trump has not only remained fairly close to them, but has actually taken a lead by several "polls", and I suspect the internal polls show even more bleak outcome for the witch.

There's an interesting poll my dad suggested looking at; # of facebook likes. Trump has 11.6 million, Hillary has 6.6 million. I hope that is an indication of how the election will go.

[bblhd672]

You can pick up a basic carbine for $500-$600, but it will be of marginal quality.

Is the S&W MP15 Sport 2 considered marginal quality? If so, then I need to sell mine and move up to the next level.

I did a lot of research including talking to the guys on our local SO and PD swat teams. Since I have known most of them since they got into law enforcement I picked their brains. These guys have a lot of money invested in their rigs, even the department issued ARs. They told me the S&W M&P 15 Sport II is all I would need if I was not shooting competition or planning on putting tens of thousands of rounds through it and even then, any part that wears out could be replaced easily enough. I am not a "black rifle guy" but decided I wanted one and that now was a good time. The S&W will last me the rest of my life for not much money. Another factor, since I am old school I had already decided my AR was going to be a Colt or S&W and got a better deal on the Smith. BTW, both Colt and S&W offer higher end ARs but at a higher price point than what I wanted to spend.

The S&W is perfectly fine for 99.99999% of use. Bottom line, if there is ever anything you don't like about it or don't have enough confidence in it, you can always upgrade it. Even the S&W versions (or any other manufacturers', for that matter) that come without a dust cover or forward assist can be upgraded by simply replacing the upper receiver half - which is a relatively inexpensive upgrade.

The Sport 2 has both forward assist and dust cover.

I am considering either selling the Sport 2 and replacing it with a more Mil-Spec M4; or just buying an additional MSR Mil-Spec M4 rifle.

[bigtek]

I feel like the mass hysteria is already gearing up. Do not fall for it. Even if the witch wins, which I believe will not happen, mass hysteria will do more immediate harm to gun/ammo availability then she ever could realistically.

I agree we shouldn't fall for the hysteria. Buying a S&W MP15 for $650 or a Magpul 10-pack for $100 is not hysteria. Neither is buying ammunition at prices below the five year average. I think it's more prudent than spending a similar amount of money on gold or silver, and a better investment than a new iPhone.

[Bitter Clinger]

You can pick up a basic carbine for $500-$600, but it will be of marginal quality.

Is the S&W MP15 Sport 2 considered marginal quality? If so, then I need to sell mine and move up to the next level.

I did a lot of research including talking to the guys on our local SO and PD swat teams. Since I have known most of them since they got into law enforcement I picked their brains. These guys have a lot of money invested in their rigs, even the department issued ARs. They told me the S&W M&P 15 Sport II is all I would need if I was not shooting competition or planning on putting tens of thousands of rounds through it and even then, any part that wears out could be replaced easily enough. I am not a "black rifle guy" but decided I wanted one and that now was a good time. The S&W will last me the rest of my life for not much money. Another factor, since I am old school I had already decided my AR was going to be a Colt or S&W and got a better deal on the Smith. BTW, both Colt and S&W offer higher end ARs but at a higher price point than what I wanted to spend.

The S&W is perfectly fine for 99.99999% of use. Bottom line, if there is ever anything you don't like about it or don't have enough confidence in it, you can always upgrade it. Even the S&W versions (or any other manufacturers', for that matter) that come without a dust cover or forward assist can be upgraded by simply replacing the upper receiver half - which is a relatively inexpensive upgrade.

The Sport 2 has both forward assist and dust cover.

I am considering either selling the Sport 2 and replacing it with a more Mil-Spec M4; or just buying an additional MSR Mil-Spec M4 rifle.

Can't go wrong with a Colt LE 6920!

[ScottDLS]

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Can't go wrong with a Colt LE 6920!

I'm still mad at Colt for foisting the idiotic "large pushpin" lowers on the market after 1994, though they subsequently stopped. For those of you that don't know, this was a non-milspec AR15 style lower with a large takedown pin that wouldn't work with other AR15 uppers. The purpose was to keep the idiotic "post-ban" crippled guns from being converted to pre-ban configuration, which was illegal until 2004. The problem is none of the other AR15 pattern manufacturers did it. I found this out at gun show in 2002 when trying to by a pre-ban... A Colt snob dealer "schooled" me on how he would only sell the pre-94 small pushpin Colts for an outrageous premium, prompting me to walk over to the next table and buy a used Oly Arms pre-ban for $1000 less, while he glared at me for buying such an inferior gun. Now I'm a Bushmaster, or "roll your own" fan....

[Pawpaw]

[quote="Bitter Clinger]...

Can't go wrong with a Colt LE 6920!

I'm still mad at Colt for foisting the idiotic "large pushpin" lowers on the market after 1994, though they subsequently stopped. For those of you that don't know, this was a non-milspec AR15 style lower with a large takedown pin that wouldn't work with other AR15 uppers. The purpose was to keep the idiotic "post-ban" crippled guns from being converted to pre-ban configuration, which was illegal until 2004. The problem is none of the other AR15 pattern manufacturers did it. I found this out at gun show in 2002 when trying to by a pre-ban... A Colt snob dealer "schooled" me on how he would only sell the pre-94 small pushpin Colts for an outrageous premium, prompting me to walk over to the next table and buy a used Oly Arms pre-ban for $1000 less, while he glared at me for buying such an inferior gun. Now I'm a Bushmaster, or "roll your own" fan....[/quote][/quote][/quote]
Um, it wasn't the takedown pins that were larger. It was the trigger and hammer pins & holes.

[Weg]

If I remember right, Colt did not take a stand in the debate over the 1994 AWB ban, effectively supporting it. I remember watching the CEO of Colt back then being interviewed on TV and saying he thought it was a reasonable proposal. Been bitter at Colt ever since, and have never purchased a single one of their products.

[Bitter Clinger]

If I remember right, Colt did not take a stand in the debate over the 1994 AWB ban, effectively supporting it. I remember watching the CEO of Colt back then being interviewed on TV and saying he thought it was a reasonable proposal. Been bitter at Colt ever since, and have never purchased a single one of their products.

22 years ago? Really? I think it is time to move on gentlemen and select the most appropriate quality for your application, whatever that may be.