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Just pondering:
TDL has our TDL number on it. But does not have our LTC on it.
LTC has both our LTC number, and our TDL number.

Based on this, if you use your LTC as ID, we are giving them more info than whats on our TDL.

Is there any concerns about someone writing down/copying our LTC number? Can they do anything malicious with it? Do we need to take light precautions to protect our LTC number?

I don't know of anything untoward that can be done with an LTC number. That said, an LEO is the only person I would let take down my information. There's just no good reason anyone else would want to do so.

When I was just out of high school I worked for a fairly quirky character who had a pilot's license. One day he got asked for ID at a store he had been to a zillion times. They had new rules that said everybody paying by check had to show a driver's license, so he pulled out his pilot's license.

The poor checker couldn't figure out what it was, so my boss told him it was a federal driver's license. That took a few minutes to figure out, then it dawned on the checker. "This is for airplanes!"

Yes, my boss said, it was the only license he could get. He had loss of vision problems, he explained, that kept him from being able to drive a car safely.

"But you drive airplanes?"

Yep, those airliners practically fly themselves. Pilots don't have to look outside when they fly. And on, and on...

It was hilarious.

treadlightly wrote:When I was just out of high school I worked for a fairly quirky character who had a pilot's license. One day he got asked for ID at a store he had been to a zillion times. They had new rules that said everybody paying by check had to show a driver's license, so he pulled out his pilot's license.
The poor checker couldn't figure out what it was, so my boss told him it was a federal driver's license. That took a few minutes to figure out, then it dawned on the checker. "This is for airplanes!"
Yes, my boss said, it was the only license he could get. He had loss of vision problems, he explained, that kept him from being able to drive a car safely.
"But you drive airplanes?"
Yep, those airliners practically fly themselves. Pilots don't have to look outside when they fly. And on, and on...
It was hilarious.

Nice story but it just doesn't "FLY". Vision requirements for pilots are quite more stringent than those for a driver's license.
BTW, We DO have to look outside!

Mel wrote: BTW, We DO have to look outside!

No you don't. But IF you don't. you may not ever be able to look out again....

Back in the 70s we stopped to by beer before hitting the lake. My friend gave the cashier a check and she wanted to know what DVM meant behind his name. He told her it meant Doctor of Veterinary Medicine. She acted as if was lying to her then asked for his ID. He acted like he couldn't find his DL, without missing a beat he asked if his parole card would do. Her look was priceless.

We DO have to look outside!

No, my BIL was rated for 0/0 flight in the Navy.

Mel wrote:

treadlightly wrote:When I was just out of high school I worked for a fairly quirky character who had a pilot's license. One day he got asked for ID at a store he had been to a zillion times. They had new rules that said everybody paying by check had to show a driver's license, so he pulled out his pilot's license.
The poor checker couldn't figure out what it was, so my boss told him it was a federal driver's license. That took a few minutes to figure out, then it dawned on the checker. "This is for airplanes!"
Yes, my boss said, it was the only license he could get. He had loss of vision problems, he explained, that kept him from being able to drive a car safely.
"But you drive airplanes?"
Yep, those airliners practically fly themselves. Pilots don't have to look outside when they fly. And on, and on...
It was hilarious.

Nice story but it just doesn't "FLY". Vision requirements for pilots are quite more stringent than those for a driver's license.
BTW, We DO have to look outside!

Well, the story is completely true. My boss (now lifelong friend) absolutely pulled the checker's leg as reported. I think that was at the Rylander's grocery that used to be at the corner of Ben White and Manchaca in South Austin.

For full disclosure, he had a driver's license, airman's certificate, and had no vision trouble at all.

I turn 79 tomorrow, so I have to find entertainment wherever I can. I ALWAYS pull out my CHL for answer to the request for photo ID. When it is refused and I am asked for a drivers license, I pull out my pilots license (which has no photo on it) and argue that it takes more skill to pass a pilots license than a drivers license. Then when asked for ANYTHING with my photo on it, I pull out my military ID (with photo on it). That seems to confuse them even more and is most often refused. That allows me to go into a tirade about why Texas cannot honor a Department of Defense ID, since Texas was a part of the USA last time I checked.
I save another for special occasions, I have an International Drivers License, issued back when I was about 20 years old. Yep, it never expires and you never get a new photo. They look at my balding grey hair and shake their head, and while they are still stunned, I state "but madam, you requested to see my drivers license!"

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I am under the understanding that swiping a DL is not legal for those that are not law enforcement. If they can swipe and get my age, they can get a lot more...[/quote]

My bank swipes it, several retailers have done so as well.

rm9792 wrote:

I am under the understanding that swiping a DL is not legal for those that are not law enforcement. If they can swipe and get my age, they can get a lot more...[/quote]

My bank swipes it, several retailers have done so as well.[/quote]

DO they still swipe the mag stripe? It's been a long time, but the last time I remember my TXDL info read off the stripe was on the Delta Airlines check in kiosks about 14 years ago. The 3D bar code on the back has ALL the info too, and that's what I've seen the retailers scan for proof of age. I got a freeware PDF417 scanner for my iPhone and it's really interesting what you can read off the bar code. My LTC only has a 2D bar code with the license number on it. I assume that's why they don't scan them at the polls.

That's interesting. I can't recall anyone scanning my DL before. They simply look at the DOB to verify my age if they actually request my ID. With all the grey in my beard now they mostly just look at me to verify my age. However, a woman at Walmart a few weeks ago did ask for my ID and as I was getting it out asked if I looked under 40. They used to have a sign that said they would ID if you looked under 40. She said tat they've been told to ID everyone buying alcohol now. So, I told her that was good news and that now a I could stop adding all this grey to keep from being carded.

Interestingly though, I purchased some shotgun shells yesterday and when the register asked if I was over 21 all the cashier did was look at me. No request for ID.

C-dub wrote:That's interesting. I can't recall anyone scanning my DL before. They simply look at the DOB to verify my age if they actually request my ID. With all the grey in my beard now they mostly just look at me to verify my age. However, a woman at Walmart a few weeks ago did ask for my ID and as I was getting it out asked if I looked under 40. They used to have a sign that said they would ID if you looked under 40. She said tat they've been told to ID everyone buying alcohol now. So, I told her that was good news and that now a I could stop adding all this grey to keep from being carded.

Interestingly though, I purchased some shotgun shells yesterday and when the register asked if I was over 21 all the cashier did was look at me. No request for ID.

Well, alcohol is more dangerous than shotguns!

C-dub wrote:That's interesting. I can't recall anyone scanning my DL before. They simply look at the DOB to verify my age if they actually request my ID. With all the grey in my beard now they mostly just look at me to verify my age. However, a woman at Walmart a few weeks ago did ask for my ID and as I was getting it out asked if I looked under 40. They used to have a sign that said they would ID if you looked under 40. She said tat they've been told to ID everyone buying alcohol now. So, I told her that was good news and that now a I could stop adding all this grey to keep from being carded.

Interestingly though, I purchased some shotgun shells yesterday and when the register asked if I was over 21 all the cashier did was look at me. No request for ID.

It should take less than 1 second to determine if someone is under 21 by checking their drivers license or ID card.

Pawpaw wrote: It should take less than 1 second to determine if someone is under 21 by checking their drivers license or ID card.

>IF< the clerk is competent in basic mathematics. Many apparently are not.