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addison_bryant wrote:Well some of your suspicions may have been true! I went in today to have another chat with the owner and showed him the email from TABC. He read it, and without going into all the details and back and forth, he basically said he would feel more comfortable leaving the signs up. When I asked if it was because of the TABC or his own opinions about citizens carrying weapons legally he said he didn't feel like talking about it anymore and needed to get back to his paperwork. To which I said, "thank you for your time, and this is the last you will see of me and many of my friends," and walked out.

Still not 100% sure if it's his opinion or if the idle threats really happened, but either way 30.06 = no money.

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It's always easy to blame the big bad TABC or insurance company. Well, it is until being called out on it and asked for evidence or documentation.

Sounds like another spineless business owner that doesn't want to own his own decisions.
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kg5ie wrote:I filed a complaint against my local liquor store when they posted 51% signs. ...
How do you do this? I find plenty of links to report serving under age, over serving, serving outside hours etc etc. How do you report invalid signage? I'm thinking about a restaurant in Addison. They have 51% signs posted all over the place. According to the TABC phone app it should be TABC blue. I'm assuming if they have to take down their 51% signs they will soon replace them with 06/07 but at least that is honest.
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mojo84 wrote:It's always easy to blame the big bad TABC or insurance company. Well, it is until being called out on it and asked for evidence or documentation.

Sounds like another spineless business owner that doesn't want to own his own decisions.
:iagree: When confronted with the email [tangible proof], it sounds like the business owner was doing some serious backpedaling. :nono:
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warnmar10 wrote:
kg5ie wrote:I filed a complaint against my local liquor store when they posted 51% signs. ...
How do you do this? I find plenty of links to report serving under age, over serving, serving outside hours etc etc. How do you report invalid signage? I'm thinking about a restaurant in Addison. They have 51% signs posted all over the place. According to the TABC phone app it should be TABC blue. I'm assuming if they have to take down their 51% signs they will soon replace them with 06/07 but at least that is honest.
From an old post:
steveincowtown wrote:Just a note if you choose to try to have the 51% sign removed.

Step #1- Don't contact Brick's Pizza at all.

Step #2- No really, don't contact them.

Step #3- Fill out a complaint on TABC website. Don't say anything about "my darn 2A rights" etc. Simply state that you found their signage confusing and don't believe they are displaying the correct signs. A TABC agent will stop by and correct it.
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https://www.tabc.texas.gov/LicensedLocationComplaint/
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steveincowtown wrote:
warnmar10 wrote:
kg5ie wrote:I filed a complaint against my local liquor store when they posted 51% signs. ...
How do you do this? I find plenty of links to report serving under age, over serving, serving outside hours etc etc. How do you report invalid signage? I'm thinking about a restaurant in Addison. They have 51% signs posted all over the place. According to the TABC phone app it should be TABC blue. I'm assuming if they have to take down their 51% signs they will soon replace them with 06/07 but at least that is honest.
From an old post:
steveincowtown wrote:Just a note if you choose to try to have the 51% sign removed.

Step #1- Don't contact Brick's Pizza at all.

Step #2- No really, don't contact them.

Step #3- Fill out a complaint on TABC website. Don't say anything about "my darn 2A rights" etc. Simply state that you found their signage confusing and don't believe they are displaying the correct signs. A TABC agent will stop by and correct it.
Link to complaint form:

https://www.tabc.texas.gov/LicensedLocationComplaint/
Done. Thanks!
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Soccerdad1995 wrote:
Mxrdad wrote:
addison_bryant wrote:Not a bad idea. I'll ask the next time I'm in another store.

As for this one, after I deliver the TABC response we will see if he takes down the signs. He knows he doesn't have to have them by his own admission just said he was scared of the inspector. Either way, if he doesn't take down the signs it will be my last visit, TABC fault or not.
OK now, don't go developing a serious drinking problem claiming its "journalism". LOL. :smilelol5: JK. I forgot to mention nice letter.
That made me think of an idea. I wonder if certain adult targeted artistic dancing venues in my area are being similarly pressured. I may have to go on a few scouting missions to verify.
"rlol" Never heard it put so.......... professional. I think your onto something here. Lets see, Really Honey, I'm not doing it for myself.......Hhhmm, dont know if that will work or not.

I agree the owner was crawfishing. Sheesh. Man up store owner! Better yet, get educated and get rid of those signs.
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I would love to know the store, perhaps its by me?
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For the store owner to blame the TABC, it tells me he knew the consequences of posting those signs, and that it would be a certain loss of business from 2A supporters. He really had to be conflicted in making that decision, but he didn't think it through very well. :roll:
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This is why some people disregard 30.06 signs (not me, of course... nor am I "promoting illegal conduct" by saying that anyone should do so).

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Mxrdad wrote: I agree the owner was crawfishing. Sheesh. Man up store owner! Better yet, get educated and get rid of those signs.
I have never heard that phrase. The owner was crawfishing. I have other slang words I would use but that is a different topic.
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Tomtexan,

You posted: " He really had to be conflicted in making that decision,"...

And you think that ...why?

Antis aren't conflicted just because they're business owners.

This decision is rather ironic given liquor stores are so often hit by armed robbers...
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warnmar10 wrote:
kg5ie wrote:I filed a complaint against my local liquor store when they posted 51% signs. ...
How do you do this? I find plenty of links to report serving under age, over serving, serving outside hours etc etc. How do you report invalid signage? I'm thinking about a restaurant in Addison. They have 51% signs posted all over the place. According to the TABC phone app it should be TABC blue. I'm assuming if they have to take down their 51% signs they will soon replace them with 06/07 but at least that is honest.

The contact I had with them was very positive.

https://www.tabc.state.tx.us/enforcemen ... cation.asp
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Abraham wrote:Tomtexan,

You posted: " He really had to be conflicted in making that decision,"...

And you think that ...why?

Antis aren't conflicted just because they're business owners.

This decision is rather ironic given liquor stores are so often hit by armed robbers...
Maybe he is trying to cut down on the number of armed robbers by forbidding them from bringing their guns into his store?

Seriously. I have just about given up all hope that anti's are even the least bit capable of logical, rational, thought. My BIL sent my wife a text about the school shooting in Mexico and told her to "please stop buying [son's name] toy guns". Yes, because if Mexico could just place a few more restrictions on guns, then there would be no school violence. Lets just ignore the fact that Mexico has basically zero gun freedom as it stands, and lets also pretend that this troubled kid would not have fashioned a pipe bomb, or picked up a knife, or a rock, if he wasn't able to get a gun. They have an irrational fixation with the object, and not with the crime.

What's next? Liberals calling for a ban on cell phones when someone makes a harassing phone call? How about a ban on cars when someone drives drunk? Or a ban on the internet when someone blogs something negative about "the chosen one"? Tools of all types can be used for good things and they can be used for bad things. They are just tools. You can't eliminate all the bad things in this world by taking away every tool. You just can't.

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I would also like to know the name of the store so they don't end up with my money.
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