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Redneck_Buddha wrote: Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:50 am

PriestTheRunner wrote: Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:24 am

philip964 wrote: Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:48 am Not sure the thinking behind this. If you wanted to just kill someone in a foreign country, you would just do what the Clinton's do. They have a heart attack or they are robbed on the street and killed, or they commit suicide.

Not everyone owns a heart-attack-gun (you think I'm making that up...?) so sometimes it has to be a little more hands-on. But they could have suicided him like the Clinton's do.

Multiple self-inflicted gunshot wounds to the back of the head.

stroo wrote: Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:06 pm How is this different from Obama ordering the killing of 2 American citizens in Yemen through drone strikes???

PriestTheRunner wrote: Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:24 am

philip964 wrote: Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:48 am Not sure the thinking behind this. If you wanted to just kill someone in a foreign country, you would just do what the Clinton's do. They have a heart attack or they are robbed on the street and killed, or they commit suicide.

Not everyone owns a heart-attack-gun (you think I'm making that up...?) so sometimes it has to be a little more hands-on. But they could have suicided him like the Clinton's do.

ELB wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:21 am So I'm reading the journalist was also a Muslim Brotherhood fellow traveler, if not member, was a confidant and advisor to members of the Saudi royal family who are on the outs with the current ruler, and his beef with the current ruler is not that he's too authoritarian but that he is too western, not Islamic enough.

I think Trump may have jumped early and the wrong way on this one.

ETA: https://pjmedia.com/spengler/german-pre ... ppearance/

Germany's leading right-of-center daily Die Welt this morning reveals that Jamal Khashoggi was not a journalist, but a high-level operative for the Saudi intelligence service, an intimate of Osama bin Laden, and the nephew of the shadiest of all Arab arms dealers, the infamous Adnan Khashoggi. John Bradley reported last week in the Spectator that Khashoggi, who allegedly met a grisly end in a Saudi consulate in Istanbul, was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, the Islamist organization that among other things wants to replace the Saudi monarchy with a modern Islamist totalitarian state.

RoyGBiv wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:59 amImpossible to know spin from truth on this one....

rotor wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:05 pm I still don't know why we care about this. A Saudi citizen may have been killed on Saudi soil (the embassy) and we are up in arms. How many other Saudi citizens are killed in Saudi Arabia every day? Who knows. He was a reporter for the Washington Post so we have to care. We deal with ruthless governments every day, innocents are killed by their government and we don't get involved. We open an embassy in Cuba. The reality of the world is that governments do send hit squads out to kill people and I am sure we do it too, but quietly. Let's see how this plays out but you don't cut your nose off to spite your face. Saudi Arabia is too important to us to lose them.

bblhd672 wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:44 pm

rotor wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:05 pm I still don't know why we care about this. A Saudi citizen may have been killed on Saudi soil (the embassy) and we are up in arms. How many other Saudi citizens are killed in Saudi Arabia every day? Who knows. He was a reporter for the Washington Post so we have to care. We deal with ruthless governments every day, innocents are killed by their government and we don't get involved. We open an embassy in Cuba. The reality of the world is that governments do send hit squads out to kill people and I am sure we do it too, but quietly. Let's see how this plays out but you don't cut your nose off to spite your face. Saudi Arabia is too important to us to lose them.

Especially when the Saudi citizen was a cohort of Osama Bin Laden. That he allegedly was reporter for the Washington Swamp Post reduces my give a care to negative numbers.

RoyGBiv wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:55 pm

RoyGBiv wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:59 amImpossible to know spin from truth on this one....

Ok... the back story may never be known, but, apparently there was audio surveillance during the act itself.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/saudi-doc ... ion-report