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Re: NPC - the new way to insult liberals

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:50 pm
by TXHawk
I am as annoyed, no sickened, by the liberal/PC culture as anybody but I think we need to change our terms some. I think it is a mistake to label all liberals as America hating and anti-gun. I have much to my shock met more than one "liberal" on the gun range. I have to admit that perplexes me more than a little. That said I think we would be wise to not insult them but try and use the common ground of gun ownership to at least get them to consider only voting for pro gun candidates. Tall order I know but we need all the help we can get. Now, the absolute Radicalized Leftists are a whole other matter and in my view are likely beyond help and reason unless a faced with a cataclysmic event and they learn the hard way the reason for the staunch defense of the 2nd Amendment. If events continue on the current path that may be sooner than later. We will see.....

BTW that does not mean I do not enjoy the humor in the memes. Some of it is pretty funny....and sadly true.

Re: NPC - the new way to insult liberals

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:06 am
by Liberty
TXHawk wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:50 pm I am as annoyed, no sickened, by the liberal/PC culture as anybody but I think we need to change our terms some. I think it is a mistake to label all liberals as America hating and anti-gun. I have much to my shock met more than one "liberal" on the gun range. I have to admit that perplexes me more than a little. That said I think we would be wise to not insult them but try and use the common ground of gun ownership to at least get them to consider only voting for pro gun candidates. Tall order I know but we need all the help we can get.
There are two ways to resolve political differences. Confrontation or Evangelism. Confrontation results can be ugly it forces the neutral sides to take sides and the logical resolution often is determined by violence. Evangelism relies on intellectual confrontation rather than physical for conversion. The problem with evangelism is the opposing side never completely goes away.

The Democrats and the left by nature used to be the natural defenders of basic human rights. It's not a hard stretch for an honest liberal to see basic human rights, such as the right to defend one's self, seriously. We conservatives can be more successful when we recognize this and use evangelism rather than confrontation ignoring the extremist and counseling those open to reason. Our side is better served when those incapable of reasonable discussion stifle themselves, and rather we promote 2nd amendment issues as human rights.

Re: NPC - the new way to insult liberals

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:52 am
by bblhd672
TXHawk wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:50 pm I am as annoyed, no sickened, by the liberal/PC culture as anybody but I think we need to change our terms some. I think it is a mistake to label all liberals as America hating and anti-gun. I have much to my shock met more than one "liberal" on the gun range. I have to admit that perplexes me more than a little. That said I think we would be wise to not insult them but try and use the common ground of gun ownership to at least get them to consider only voting for pro gun candidates. Tall order I know but we need all the help we can get. Now, the absolute Radicalized Leftists are a whole other matter and in my view are likely beyond help and reason unless a faced with a cataclysmic event and they learn the hard way the reason for the staunch defense of the 2nd Amendment. If events continue on the current path that may be sooner than later. We will see.....

BTW that does not mean I do not enjoy the humor in the memes. Some of it is pretty funny....and sadly true.
This thread is titled incorrectly because the “classic” liberal to which you refer isn’t the intended target. Classic liberals are not the same people as the progressive socialists who are the subject of the NPC memes. The problem is that the Democrat party has few classic liberals left in positions of influence. Their guilt is by association and allowing their party to be co-opted by progressive socialists whose goal is to destroy our republic. Trying to reason with and be nice to progressive socialists SJW’s hasn’t worked, just ask those among them who dared to disagree with anything the SJW’s scream, rant, cry and demonstrate about.
The classic liberals should be able to see that if conservatives are destroyed that they would become the “radical right” targets of the progressive socialists.

Re: NPC - the new way to insult liberals

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:08 am
by TXHawk
bblhd672 wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:52 am
TXHawk wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:50 pm I am as annoyed, no sickened, by the liberal/PC culture as anybody but I think we need to change our terms some. I think it is a mistake to label all liberals as America hating and anti-gun. I have much to my shock met more than one "liberal" on the gun range. I have to admit that perplexes me more than a little. That said I think we would be wise to not insult them but try and use the common ground of gun ownership to at least get them to consider only voting for pro gun candidates. Tall order I know but we need all the help we can get. Now, the absolute Radicalized Leftists are a whole other matter and in my view are likely beyond help and reason unless a faced with a cataclysmic event and they learn the hard way the reason for the staunch defense of the 2nd Amendment. If events continue on the current path that may be sooner than later. We will see.....

BTW that does not mean I do not enjoy the humor in the memes. Some of it is pretty funny....and sadly true.
This thread is titled incorrectly because the “classic” liberal to which you refer isn’t the intended target. Classic liberals are not the same people as the progressive socialists who are the subject of the NPC memes. The problem is that the Democrat party has few classic liberals left in positions of influence. Their guilt is by association and allowing their party to be co-opted by progressive socialists whose goal is to destroy our republic. Trying to reason with and be nice to progressive socialists SJW’s hasn’t worked, just ask those among them who dared to disagree with anything the SJW’s scream, rant, cry and demonstrate about.
The classic liberals should be able to see that if conservatives are destroyed that they would become the “radical right” targets of the progressive socialists.

I would agree. Few Classic liberals as you refer to them left. The Democrat party is now Radicalized Socialists.

Re: NPC - the new way to insult liberals

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:07 pm
by Abraham
philip964,

I know you're simply pointing out more leftist pc nonsense, but my response to the ok sign being referred to as racist, is an eye roll, a shrug of my shoulders and a hearty (in lefty direction) "who cares little miss pc snowflake?"

Re: NPC - the new way to insult liberals

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:32 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
Abraham wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:07 pm philip964,

I know you're simply pointing out more leftist pc nonsense, but my response to the ok sign being referred to as racist, is an eye roll, a shrug of my shoulders and a hearty (in lefty direction) "who cares little miss pc snowflake?"
I was hoping you would have included a, "Get Off My Lawn".

Re: NPC - the new way to insult liberals

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:07 pm
by Abraham
03Lightningrocks,

Well, yes, my senile dementia is having it's way with me...again.

Now, for all puckered mouth, pc snowflakes, "get off my lawn"...I hope that's not too late...?

Oh, and here's my OK hand sign for all the 'you must be pc or beta male will come visit and punish, late, very late at night'

Re: NPC - the new way to insult liberals

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:16 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
Abraham wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:07 pm 03Lightningrocks,

Well, yes, my senile dementia is having it's way with me...again.

Now, for all puckered mouth, pc snowflakes, "get off my lawn"...I hope that's not too late...?

Oh, and here's my OK hand sign for all the 'you must be pc or beta male will come visit and punish, late, very late at night'
:tiphat:

Re: NPC - the new way to insult liberals

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:49 pm
by oljames3
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