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Re: Ever Eaten Raw Beef?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:43 pm
by RoyGBiv
Abraham wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:46 am 74novaman,

Are you from someplace in Africa?

The only mention of 'biltong' I've seen were all located there.

How long do you let it dry and do you use cheese cloth to keep the flys off or ...?

Thanks!
We dry-age beef wrapped in cheesecloth, but in the fridge. No flies in there... :mrgreen:

Re: Ever Eaten Raw Beef?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:43 pm
by gtolbert09
Mad Cow Disease? I was stationed at RAF Lakenheath, UK in the early 90's when Mad Cow Disease broke out. Because of that I'm restricted by the gov't from donating blood. Yes humans can be affected by it. I've had no ill effects, but I make sure all my beef is at least medium before consuming it.

Re: Ever Eaten Raw Beef?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:13 pm
by rotor
gtolbert09 wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:43 pm Mad Cow Disease? I was stationed at RAF Lakenheath, UK in the early 90's when Mad Cow Disease broke out. Because of that I'm restricted by the gov't from donating blood. Yes humans can be affected by it. I've had no ill effects, but I make sure all my beef is at least medium before consuming it.
I believe you have to eat brain or spinal cord to get mad cow and apparently the prions are not destroyed with heat. Hard to believe.

Re: Ever Eaten Raw Beef?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:36 pm
by WTR
rotor wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:13 pm
gtolbert09 wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:43 pm Mad Cow Disease? I was stationed at RAF Lakenheath, UK in the early 90's when Mad Cow Disease broke out. Because of that I'm restricted by the gov't from donating blood. Yes humans can be affected by it. I've had no ill effects, but I make sure all my beef is at least medium before consuming it.
I believe you have to eat brain or spinal cord to get mad cow and apparently the prions are not destroyed with heat. Hard to believe.
That is the case and infections did occur. If you have ever spent any time in a slaughter house you would be appalled at the easy with which contamination happens.

Re: Ever Eaten Raw Beef?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:42 pm
by MaduroBU
Grind your own from steak that has been aged. Dry aging beef will root out contaminated meat (vs cooking to kill the pathogens). I'm pretty permissive with food safety, but eating uncooked preground beef puts a lot of faith in a meat packing industry that was putting its faith in you to cook thir product.

Re: Ever Eaten Raw Beef?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:47 pm
by WTR
MaduroBU wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:42 pm Grind your own from steak that has been aged. Dry aging beef will root out contaminated meat (vs cooking to kill the pathogens). I'm pretty permissive with food safety, but eating uncooked preground beef puts a lot of faith in a meat packing industry that was putting its faith in you to cook thir product.
Just look at the millions of pounds of ground beef which is recalled each year due to bacterial contamination. Brain is also a popular food in the UK. I know my Mom used to make brains and eggs for us when I was a kid.

Re: Ever Eaten Raw Beef?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:10 pm
by BigGuy
More years ago than I care to remember, in college. I'd been living on rice and oatmeal for weeks. I finally got a little money and went an bought a couple of steaks. I was getting ready to cook them when suddenly I just grabbed one and started eating it raw. I hadn't planned to, but I just couldn't stop myself. I cooked the other one, and haven't eaten raw meat since. I don't know exactly what came over me, and I wondered about it.

Re: Ever Eaten Raw Beef?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:51 pm
by Oldgringo
I like JalapeƱo Poppers. :cheers2:

Re: Ever Eaten Raw Beef?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:00 pm
by MaduroBU
BigGuy wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:10 pm More years ago than I care to remember, in college. I'd been living on rice and oatmeal for weeks. I finally got a little money and went an bought a couple of steaks. I was getting ready to cook them when suddenly I just grabbed one and started eating it raw. I hadn't planned to, but I just couldn't stop myself. I cooked the other one, and haven't eaten raw meat since. I don't know exactly what came over me, and I wondered about it.
A guess is that you were iron deficient. People with iron deficiency will develop a nearly uncontrollable urge to eat things ranging from ice chips to steaks to rocks. These are not psych patients mind you, but normal people whose reptile brains are sending them signals that they can't really interpret but which are nonetheless very hard to stave off.

Re: Ever Eaten Raw Beef?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:36 pm
by puma guy
When I was kid my dad would eat raw ground beef on crackers with onion. He told me as a young man he would patronize a bar for lunch that offered raw ground beef as the "lunch". As a struggling veterinarian trying to start a practice with his brother who was also a vet he worked as a meat inspector at a packing plant in the 1940's after the war. He never mentioned people getting sick from processing as they do now a day. Whether his plant was very clean or any news about contamination was quelled I don't know. I was surprised that it was really good. He also started me eating horse radish spooned on crackers as a snack. I wouldn't eat raw meat nowadays. though.

Re: Ever Eaten Raw Beef?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:51 pm
by SQLGeek
I tried steak tartare once. It did nothing for me. I prefer some heat and sear on my beef and reserve eating raw animal for seafood.

Re: Ever Eaten Raw Beef?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:54 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
I will eat Sushi and such but raw beef is best left for the dog.

Re: Ever Eaten Raw Beef?

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:19 am
by SpringerFan
I'll take mine medium please.

Re: Ever Eaten Raw Beef?

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:03 am
by philip964
Abraham wrote: Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:56 pm Philip964,

Yes, it counts, but I'm sorry you didn't care for it.

My guess is you had a built in reluctance factor.

Understandable, you're an American with the American attitude of 'holy mak-el Andy, we gonna eat that, it'll make us sick' when it won't.

Getting Americans to even try or consider something that isn't bland, though 'mountain oysters' even though rather bland is a huge stretch for some.

BTW, even turkey fries I find delicious, or beef or ....they're all good, I do prefer them 'fried'.

Brains, not being a zombie, I find gelatinous and not something I'm overly fond of, but will eat them in Menudo.

Years back, on the first leg of a business trip landing in Monterrey, Mexico in ye old company jet, a group of us were treated to lunch of cabrito.

Our host, insisted our metallurgist eat the eye out of the whole roasted critter served as our lunch. He, our guy, apparently thought himself the butt of a bad gustatory joke. He refused this kind offer whereupon our host dug one out of the skull, popped into his mouth and exclaimed ecstasy.

I didn't volunteer to eat it as I didn't want to make our guy look weak...
I'm sorry your right. Just the sight of the giblets bag inside the frozen turkey makes me gag.

Re: Ever Eaten Raw Beef?

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:19 am
by Deltaboy
Yes I had Beef tar tar. But also ate Chitlins, Rabbit, Squirrel, Racoon , Beaver, and Musrat!