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03Lightningrocks wrote: Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:07 pm I have always been a proponent of "take the ride" and fight it in court later. Cops are simply making an arrest for what they perceive as an arrestable violation of the law. But then one has to ask. What do we do when the same cops come to confiscate our firearms?

I have always advised people of two things. One is to be careful of choosing your tactics and the other is to have in your mind where your line in the sand is. As a general rule, it is better tactics to go along with the officer in the street and cooperate. In most cases, you stand a better chance of winning in court later than on the street. It may help to understand the predominant police attitude on this, which is that you almost never can talk your way out of a ticket, but you can always talk your way into one. In the specific case, I do not agree that mask laws are legal or that masks do any real good at all. I wear one when I go into a business because I simply have decided that this is not the fight I want to make. The common expression is that this is not the hill I am willing to die on.

But I know where my lines are and coming after my guns is one of them. That is a hill I am literally willing to die fighting for. I would plan on a Viking funeral with the bodies of a lot of my enemies at my feet. Each of you may have different opinions on the tactics and the lines where they will fight. That is fine with me, as long as you think about them in advance.

srothstein wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:10 am
But I know where my lines are and coming after my guns is one of them. That is a hill I am literally willing to die fighting for. I would plan on a Viking funeral with the bodies of a lot of my enemies at my feet. Each of you may have different opinions on the tactics and the lines where they will fight. That is fine with me, as long as you think about them in advance.

I believe the mask mandates are a compliance test of the effectiveness of the propaganda machine. I suspect that even some here will willingly hand over their firearms when ordered by the government because they feel they must respect the authorities.

Grayling813 wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:41 am

srothstein wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:10 am
But I know where my lines are and coming after my guns is one of them. That is a hill I am literally willing to die fighting for. I would plan on a Viking funeral with the bodies of a lot of my enemies at my feet. Each of you may have different opinions on the tactics and the lines where they will fight. That is fine with me, as long as you think about them in advance.

I believe the mask mandates are a compliance test of the effectiveness of the propaganda machine. I suspect that even some here will willingly hand over their firearms when ordered by the government because they feel they must respect the authorities.

This pretty well sums up the situation

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=5F996219

They should do a side by side with the 2nd LEO showing up without a mask as well.

Has anyone in Texas been arrested for the ghastly crime of failure to wear a mask? I sure hope not. I like to think of Texas as being somewhat above these kind of petty violations.

03Lightningrocks wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:50 am Has anyone in Texas been arrested for the ghastly crime of failure to wear a mask? I sure hope not. I like to think of Texas as being somewhat above these kind of petty violations.

There was that one woman who dared to open her salon so her employees could put food on their kids' table that was thrown in jail.

I think she's now running for office here in Dallas.

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/08/22 ... as-senate/

Excuse me, Prosper. She lives in Denton County.

C-dub wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:22 pm

03Lightningrocks wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:50 am Has anyone in Texas been arrested for the ghastly crime of failure to wear a mask? I sure hope not. I like to think of Texas as being somewhat above these kind of petty violations.

There was that one woman who dared to open her salon so her employees could put food on their kids' table that was thrown in jail.

I think she's now running for office here in Dallas.

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/08/22 ... as-senate/

Excuse me, Prosper. She lives in Denton County.

Yeah, I forgot about that one but at least the Lt Governor told them to let her out.

03Lightningrocks wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:10 pm

C-dub wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:22 pm

03Lightningrocks wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:50 am Has anyone in Texas been arrested for the ghastly crime of failure to wear a mask? I sure hope not. I like to think of Texas as being somewhat above these kind of petty violations.

There was that one woman who dared to open her salon so her employees could put food on their kids' table that was thrown in jail.

I think she's now running for office here in Dallas.

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/08/22 ... as-senate/

Excuse me, Prosper. She lives in Denton County.

Yeah, I forgot about that one but at least the Lt Governor told them to let her out.

It was the state supreme court who mandated she be released while they review the case. There is still a possibility she has to serve the remainder of the 7 day sentence for contempt of court. People keep saying it was Abbott who had her released, when he had nothing (at least officially) to do with it. I am unaware if he had any unofficial influence on the court's order.

Flightmare wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:56 pm

03Lightningrocks wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:10 pm

C-dub wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:22 pm

03Lightningrocks wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:50 am Has anyone in Texas been arrested for the ghastly crime of failure to wear a mask? I sure hope not. I like to think of Texas as being somewhat above these kind of petty violations.

There was that one woman who dared to open her salon so her employees could put food on their kids' table that was thrown in jail.

I think she's now running for office here in Dallas.

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/08/22 ... as-senate/

Excuse me, Prosper. She lives in Denton County.

Yeah, I forgot about that one but at least the Lt Governor told them to let her out.

It was the state supreme court who mandated she be released while they review the case. There is still a possibility she has to serve the remainder of the 7 day sentence for contempt of court. People keep saying it was Abbott who had her released, when he had nothing (at least officially) to do with it. I am unaware if he had any unofficial influence on the court's order.

He came out in support of her was my point.

03Lightningrocks wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:59 pm

Flightmare wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:56 pm

03Lightningrocks wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:10 pm

C-dub wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:22 pm

03Lightningrocks wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:50 am Has anyone in Texas been arrested for the ghastly crime of failure to wear a mask? I sure hope not. I like to think of Texas as being somewhat above these kind of petty violations.

There was that one woman who dared to open her salon so her employees could put food on their kids' table that was thrown in jail.

I think she's now running for office here in Dallas.

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/08/22 ... as-senate/

Excuse me, Prosper. She lives in Denton County.

Yeah, I forgot about that one but at least the Lt Governor told them to let her out.

It was the state supreme court who mandated she be released while they review the case. There is still a possibility she has to serve the remainder of the 7 day sentence for contempt of court. People keep saying it was Abbott who had her released, when he had nothing (at least officially) to do with it. I am unaware if he had any unofficial influence on the court's order.

He came out in support of her was my point.

You are correct, and even personally contributed enough to her gofundme to cover the fine issued by the judge.

Flightmare wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:32 am

03Lightningrocks wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:59 pm

Flightmare wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:56 pm

03Lightningrocks wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:10 pm

C-dub wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:22 pm

03Lightningrocks wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:50 am Has anyone in Texas been arrested for the ghastly crime of failure to wear a mask? I sure hope not. I like to think of Texas as being somewhat above these kind of petty violations.

There was that one woman who dared to open her salon so her employees could put food on their kids' table that was thrown in jail.

I think she's now running for office here in Dallas.

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/08/22 ... as-senate/

Excuse me, Prosper. She lives in Denton County.

Yeah, I forgot about that one but at least the Lt Governor told them to let her out.

It was the state supreme court who mandated she be released while they review the case. There is still a possibility she has to serve the remainder of the 7 day sentence for contempt of court. People keep saying it was Abbott who had her released, when he had nothing (at least officially) to do with it. I am unaware if he had any unofficial influence on the court's order.

He came out in support of her was my point.

You are correct, and even personally contributed enough to her gofundme to cover the fine issued by the judge.

It kind of made me proud to be in Texas.