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Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:54 am
by rtschl
Jury voted to start at 9:00 AM. I'm sure judge will let them go about their deliberations and outside of their presence address this.
Listening to rekieta law last night and live now. But last night he said he thinks this judge is pee-disposed to let the jury decide and only if jury hung or found guilty would he rule on this motion. We will find out within the next 30 minutes or so.
He also made good point last night that he hopes defense adds Jumpkick man issue to the motion as another violation.
Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:56 am
by Paladin
Another link on the Jump Kick Man:
The Disturbing Story of the Rittenhouse Case's Mysterious 'Jump Kick Man'
With the Kenosha DA all the actual criminals are running free.
Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:08 am
by Paladin
Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:40 am
by rtschl
rtschl wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:54 am
Jury voted to start at 9:00 AM. I'm sure judge will let them go about their deliberations and outside of their presence address this.
Listening to rekieta law last night and live now. But last night he said he thinks this judge is pee-disposed to let the jury decide and only if jury hung or found guilty would he rule on this motion. We will find out within the next 30 minutes or so.
He also made good point last night that he hopes defense adds Jumpkick man issue to the motion as another violation.
On youtube livestream of rekieta law, one of the attorneys commenting said that the jury was in deliberations. But nothing on livestream from court. Ugh. Would love to hear this motion before the court and the judge's reaction.
Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:43 am
by oljames3
Legal Insurrection Verdict Watch
https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/11/r ... ore-370610
In late-breaking news the night of November 16, 2021, the defense filed a motion for a mistrial with prejudice on grounds that the State failed to provide the defense with the high-definition drone video in its possession, insteady merely providing the defense with a low-resolution version of that video, as well as on other grounds.
Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:08 am
by rtschl
Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:22 pm
by rtschl
Jury had a question... wants to watch video in evidence and wants to know if they have to watch it in court. Judge mentions he hasn't read the motion to dismiss filed yesterday (he does have another trial starting Monday) and state has not responded to motion yet.
Defense said they would object to the jury watching the drone footage which is the subject of the motion to dismiss.
Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:07 pm
by rtschl
So here's the disparity of video/image. Top is what the defense was given by the DA. Bottom is what the DA used.
https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/statu ... 9769593858
Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:20 pm
by rtschl
Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:35 pm
by rtschl
Can't believe that the defense is not putting up much of a fight and even verbally asked for motion WITHOUT prejudice - just unbelievable!
In court today brought up about different video size. 3rd defense lawyer nailed ADA Kraus about file name, file size and meta data that showed different time of creation. ADA Kraus said he nor anyone knows how to compress or change video. But screen capture during his rebuttal shows he has editing and compression software in the folder of video. That would appear to me he lied to the court.
https://twitter.com/EricMertz_KC/status ... 76/photo/1
Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:59 pm
by Paladin
Tucker's take on this from Monday is classic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2AbfDlhOyc
Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:16 pm
by philip964
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... trial.html
Prosecutor’s Star witness a career criminal. Caught videotaping police officers private cars. DUI dropped just 6 days before trial. Carrying a gun while intoxicated. Domestic abuse.
Jury knew nothing about his bg background.
Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:52 pm
by powerboatr
rtschl wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:35 pm
Can't believe that the defense is not putting up much of a fight and even verbally asked for motion WITHOUT prejudice - just unbelievable!
In court today brought up about different video size. 3rd defense lawyer nailed ADA Kraus about file name, file size and meta data that showed different time of creation. ADA Kraus said he nor anyone knows how to compress or change video. But screen capture during his rebuttal shows he has editing and compression software in the folder of video. That would appear to me he lied to the court.
https://twitter.com/EricMertz_KC/status ... 76/photo/1
you would think these lies....AKA very similiar to what we saw with trumps impeachment..remember they got caught doctoring pics and their own photos for press releases got them caught.
the judge should have broke it off in the DA rear this afternoon.
Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:52 pm
by Paladin
philip964 wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:16 pm
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... trial.html
Prosecutor’s Star witness a career criminal. Caught videotaping police officers private cars. DUI dropped just 6 days before trial. Carrying a gun while intoxicated. Domestic abuse.
Jury knew nothing about his bg background.
It's outrageous that the criminal Grosskreutz isn't in jail. Especially after what Grosskreutz admitted on the stand.
Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:07 pm
by rtschl
Internet sleuths still coming through for the defense. I hope they are paying attention!
It appears the DA's office submitted the Fox video originally shown on Tucker Carlson's show last year. This wasn't just dropped off by the evidence fairy. AND - both files were edited with Apple Quicktime. This explains the very weird resolutions - they cropped out the Fox header.
https://twitter.com/Johnmcurtis/status/ ... 4810502146
https://twitter.com/Johnmcurtis/status/ ... 6272033795
